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HOW TO DO AN ADVANCED SEARCH.

Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:56 pm by Admin


For the benefit of 944Hybrids users there are two search functions available for you to use.
The purpose of this sticky is to explain the "Advanced Search" function because it is much more powerful and is the best choice when researching information.

When you log on to the site a list of options is shown in a line at the top of the page. One option is labelled "Search", use this option (NOT the search box lower down on the right).

After you click on the upper search option, a drop down box appears. At the bottom of this box is a radio button marked "Advanced …

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Post  docwyte Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:56 pm

Do you still have the factory alarm? Is it hooked up right? Did you hook up the blue charge wire correctly?

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Post  Jasonscottw Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:08 pm

I tore out the alarm without much caution.
Could that have caused a problem with the power to the gauges
and to the blue wire? Now that I'm thinking about it, it would make sense that the
alarm would disable the ignition And associated switched circuits.


Already dealing with the fallout from cutting out alarm in terms of
releasing/opening the rear hatch . . .

I'm pretty sure the alternator is wired correctly to the blue wire.
However, when energizing the starter/ignition ON, the blue wire never showed
any voltage when tested-

Replacing the alarm and associated wiring seems like a huge PIA.
Wondering if it is as simple as splicing the blue wire back together if indeed I cut power to it when removing the alarm- or would I need to replace the alarm module? or just bypass? Ugh. Sounds like a nightmare. Wish i had better wiring schematics of that region.

Or maybe i just go for the one wire hook up and not care about warning lights.
But then i don't have the option of hooking up the ABS, and also there are convincing arguments about the inefficiency of a self exciting alternator.

Or, install the resistor that Painless spec's if not using a warning light? Or just install a 12v 2 watt bulb in line on the blue wire to replace the missing ALT warning light that excited the alternator?? Wouldn't that do the same thing as the alternator warning light that is in the gauge?

Hey Rich, did you remove the alarm or leave it? If you removed, did you do anything with the associated wiring?
Last thing I need to resolve before this baby is on the road-

Appreciate the advice-

J a s o n

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Post  Rich L. Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:31 pm

The alarm and electric boot release were removed by a shop years ago when my car was made into a spec racer. I don't know exactly what they did but there's a bundle of wiring and relays zip tied under the fuse box. My dash warning lights all function normally.

Bummer on your continued troubles.

Rich
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Post  docwyte Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:38 am

Ok, that's definitely your problem. That blue charge wire circuit goes through the alarm circuit. It also controls the rear hatch release on the late model cars and I suspect all sorts of other things.

I removed the alarm from my car and have the same issues as you. Luckily I didn't remove the wiring and harness plug, so I can just plug it back in.

On the late model cars the alarm bypass procedure on Clarks garage is wrong and you jump power to ground if you follow it. So on the 88+ cars you can't use it.

You can just loop the blue wire past the alarm circuit, but you still wouldn't have the rear hatch working...

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Post  Jasonscottw Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:29 pm

Thanks docwyte-

Luckily I didn't remove all the wiring so I soldered the connector back in and jumped the pins as per
Clark's (I have an 87 n/a), and now I've got the alternator warning light glowing!
Yippee!

Now on to the hatch-

Thanks again for steering me in the right direction-

J a s o n
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Post  docwyte Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:57 pm

No worries. Wish the Clarks Garage bypass procedure worked for my car...

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Post  docwyte Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:29 pm

So the good news is that I finally bypassed the OEM alarm and the rear hatch opens with the key again.

The bad news is my alternator charge light on the instrument cluster still isn't lighting up.  I removed the cluster to make sure the bulb was there and not burnt out and it is there and isn't burnt out.

Ok, looks like the problem is how I've got the wire hooked up to the alternator then.  Someone confirm, the blue wire at the fire wall near the master cylinder gets hooked up to which pole on a 4 wire LS F body alternator again?

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Post  Jasonscottw Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:53 pm

I used the pigtail from Painless (as per Rich L's recommendation)- worked great. I'm out of town now, but when I get back I can look at the pigtail's interface with the 4 pins on the alternator and see which post the blue wire goes to-
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