Ford: Engineering nightmare or fun?

matthewb wrote:In case anyone is interested, there is a 944 coyote on the road...

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Let me know if the pictures don't work, first time doing them.

Congrats! Is there a build thread in your future? I've got a couple hundred questions. Pictures worked.

matthewb wrote:In case anyone is interested, there is a 944 coyote on the road...

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Let me know if the pictures don't work, first time doing them.

DAMN!!
That packaged really well!

I agree. It's really snug in there but but I think with a little more clean up and probably some paint on the intake elbow I made, it will kind of look like it belongs there. The clearances are really close.

As far as a build thread goes, I don't know if I will get to it. I may get some more pictures up and a little more detail about how I did it. It took some firewall cutting for the drivers side head. And takes a custom shallow depth bellhousing and some adapter work back there. Plus a lot of oil pan modification and completely custom headers. Moved the brakes and clutch completely inside the firewall. It's no picnic but I think it looks really clean.

I need some minor tweaks to the tune but it's coming along really well. I've got about 500 miles on it already. Been on the road just over a week.

Dang, that's pretty cool.

Congrats! Please please please don't put a Calvin pissing on a bowtie sticker on it.

Rich

Are you guys bolting the coyotes to the stock transmission?

I am using a 944 turbo gearbox. I have added the 3/8" stiffener plate behind the pinion shaft but aside from that it is stock.

Thats pretty awesome. Grats on a sweet build.

Im looking at procuring a wrecked 2016 stang and swaping over the motor and driveline. I need to get back home to do all the measuring. I know the tunnel will have to be cut to fit the tremec. I have poked around a little but, havent found anyone using a front mounting transmission besides one all out dragster. I do like the vette transaxle in the back but, im more of a ford guy.

Questions: from what i gather you realy cant dog the transmissions with the v8s. How much does the brace help?

Can you point me towards someones build who has done the front mount tranny swap with a soild or irs set up?

Edit: found sparkydogs thread.

I think that in general, the tires are the limiting factor. The limited traction likely helps these transmissions survive. Obviously if you do a lot of side stepping the clutch you will probably still manage to break it.
I put the plate in mine because I had the opportunity to, no because I ever broke a transaxle. The other thing to consider is that I don't think the coyote makes as much torque as most of the GM motors that are being swapped, it just breathes well up top and spins pretty fast so it carries the torque curve further out to get the high power. Torque with break transmissions, power will overheat them if you push it long enough or don't cool it.
So if you hold back from sudden torque spikes like side stepping the clutch, you will probably hold up ok if your transmission is in good shape.

PorkChop wrote:Can you point me towards someones build who has done the front mount tranny swap with a soild or irs set up?

Edit: found sparkydogs thread.

The two main areas you need to think about with the trans up front in a 944 are:
1) IMO the floor pan is weak in the area where the trans cross member has to go (which is about 4-10" in front of the seat mount rails). So you need to be prepared to fab a solution that will tie into the rockers or, devise some sub-rails that straddle the trans and tie into the seat rail and up front into the firewall structure somehow.

2) If you are planning to retain the stock 944 HVAC unit, you need to be careful that your new trans hump does not occupy the same air space as where this unit goes. On most hot rods, street rods and the like - people don't really sweat this because 90% of the world's cars do not have the HVAC unit in the middle of the dash, or the trans hump is not so big that it becomes an issue. But in the 944 the hump will be high and the HVAC will hang low!

Hey Tom,

Any updates on the Coyote swap?

matthewb wrote:Hey Tom,

Any updates on the Coyote swap?

Well......I guess my roots run deeper than I thought. I made a horrible miscalculation and went to the drag races as an addict. Long story short and despite the 18" wheels, six piston calipers, etc. etc. that I collected, The car is stripped and is becoming a tube chassis drag car. Still a coyote but with a powerglide, nine inch rear, 4-link, tubs, slicks, you get the idea. I'm bending my own tubing etc. and the project is going slow but it is still in the works. Shooting for a Super Gas caliper car.