HOW TO DO AN ADVANCED SEARCH.

Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:56 pm by Admin


For the benefit of 944Hybrids users there are two search functions available for you to use.
The purpose of this sticky is to explain the "Advanced Search" function because it is much more powerful and is the best choice when researching information.

When you log on to the site a list of options is shown in a line at the top of the page. One option is labelled "Search", use this option (NOT the search box lower down on the right).

After you click on the upper search option, a drop down box appears. At the bottom of this box is a radio button marked "Advanced …

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Front Spring Recommendation

Post  fantic on Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:02 am

Car is a 86 NA. The motor is a 6.0 iron block. Looking for springs and struts to balance it out. The car will mostly be used on the street. So don't want it to be to stiff. We have a lot of rail crossings around here and would like to get the nose of the car back up. Also if anybody knows how to get the bedliner off the bottom of the car that the PO put on I would appreciate it.


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Re: Front Spring Recommendation

Post  Jchard944 on Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:32 am

Not sure on spring rates but I can comment on the rubber coating on the bottom. It is a pain in the ass. I had my entire car sand blasted and that did not remove any of it. Pretty sure only way I have seen it removed is a wire wheel and a whole lot of elbow grease. Good luck

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Re: Front Spring Recommendation

Post  sharkey on Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:17 pm

the bed liner stuff wouldnt look so bad if it didnt go up the fender and quarter panel. if the car was prepped correctly for it, its gonna take some chemical stripper to remove it. however ive found in the past if proper prep wasnt done (old paint scuffed/sanded) the stuff will peal right off if you can get an edge up. i once redid a fabricated truck bumper because they sprayed the bed liner right over the metal without anything more than a wipe down, it was fine till the bumper got smacked and it cracked the coating, after that you could peal it off in sheets. its worth a try, but no matter what your going to be repainting the car. if it doesnt come of the chin spoiler easy id look for a replacement, i dont think anything that takes bedliner off is gonna be very friendly to the urethane.

springs and struts depends on the budget and what your really after. you could toss a set of koni inserts in and go with weltmeister 250lb springs. for a little more money paragon products has a coilover kit that uses koni inserts and adjustable spring perches, and it uses a common 2.5" id spring. they also have a matching rear coil over conversion that eliminates the torsion bars. or there is the other end of the spectrum, KW makes a real nice set of coilovers, so does bilstein and a few other companies.

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Re: Front Spring Recommendation

Post  fantic on Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:33 pm

I noticed that Weltmeister has two 250lb springs. One heavy duty and one Autocross. Also they are lowering springs. Would I need to install a spacer to bring the front of the car up?

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Re: Front Spring Recommendation

Post  yamamtx on Sat May 06, 2017 8:56 pm

I am wondering this exact same thing!? I have an iron block 4.8 with a turbo and my car sits just like yours. looking for an answer

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Re: Front Spring Recommendation

Post  fantic on Mon May 08, 2017 7:05 am

I haven't decided what to do yet. New springs and Koni inserts or go adjustable coilovers.

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Re: Front Spring Recommendation

Post  matty89 on Wed May 10, 2017 5:46 pm

im on welmeister sp-200 and its pretty stiff Smile stock shocks of a 86 model with kyb insert and rear shocks

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Re: Front Spring Recommendation

Post  944_GASM on Thu May 11, 2017 2:37 pm

I'm interested in some feedback as well. About to order some springs too, but unsure of a "ideal" spring rate. I have a 1983 944 with a LSx (Iron block), but running the coil over kit and koni inserts... I was thinking of 450#.

Reason I say that is, I purchased the 944 spec 1 suspension kit that Paragon sells and they recommend 350# springs for the Spec racers, and the Iron block is probably around 100 more pounds than the 944 block.

The only question I would have, is generally you want to match the spring rate with what the shock can handle, and I am not sure what the Koni Sports are rated for...

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Re: Front Spring Recommendation

Post  chrenan on Thu May 11, 2017 2:54 pm

Here's my suspension setup I've run for quite a few years with the stock turbo engine (being replaced with aluminum block LS). I run 400 lbs with the Koni Sport fronts, I was told that's generally as high as you want to go with that shock.

Front Suspension:

400in/lbs springs
Racers Edge Camber Plates / High Strung 44 Control Arms with monoball bushings
Ground Control coil over / Koni Sport
30mm front sway bar

Rear Suspension:

650in/lbs springs
Elephant Racing Poly Bronze Bearings / Solid torsion carrier mounts and monoball bushings
Ground Control coil over / 30 series Koni
19mm adjustable rear sway bar

Weights:

Corner balance:

818.....810
782.....747

Cross weight 50.4%

Total weight 3157 including half tank of gas and 215 for driver (2942 without driver)

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Re: Front Spring Recommendation

Post  944_GASM on Thu May 11, 2017 3:12 pm

Chrenan - Thanks for that info, it really helped (me at least).

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Re: Front Spring Recommendation

Post  money pit 951 on Sun May 14, 2017 9:31 pm

It's really a question of what setup do you have in the rear and are you keeping it? If you have the stock torsion bars, then you'll need to work around that. If you're going to remove the bars in the rear and go with coil overs, then you can pick whatever springs you want.
For a "normal" 944, conventional wisdom is to make the rear about 200lbs stiffer than the front. A nice track setup would be about 400-500lb fronts with matching rears. If you're on the street, I'd say you could go as low as 250 fronts but would stay around 300 for a stiffer feel while not making it impossible to drive
Again, it becomes totally subjective on how you like the car to feel
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Re: Front Spring Recommendation

Post  robstah on Sat May 20, 2017 4:56 pm

money pit 951 wrote:It's really a question of what setup do you have in the rear and are you keeping it? If you have the stock torsion bars, then you'll need to work around that. If you're going to remove the bars in the rear and go with coil overs, then you can pick whatever springs you want.
For a "normal" 944, conventional wisdom is to make the rear about 200lbs stiffer than the front. A nice track setup would be about 400-500lb fronts with matching rears. If you're on the street, I'd say you could go as low as 250 fronts but would stay around 300 for a stiffer feel while not making it impossible to drive
Again, it becomes totally subjective on how you like the car to feel

All that sounds low, even the track setup.

I've been driving my swap car for over 5 years daily, 672 front, 896 rear. Ask the ladies, it's all about the dampers. Razz

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