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Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:56 pm by Admin


For the benefit of 944Hybrids users there are two search functions available for you to use.
The purpose of this sticky is to explain the "Advanced Search" function because it is much more powerful and is the best choice when researching information.

When you log on to the site a list of options is shown in a line at the top of the page. One option is labelled "Search", use this option (NOT the search box lower down on the right).

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Post  MotoRider42HC on Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:23 pm

How the heck am i suppose to fit manual brakes on this thing!?!?!?!

Any help is appreciated!

P.S. No, I am not buying Hydroboost, lol.

Thanks in advance for the help!!!

Edit: even if i move the coil, there still is not enough room, not even close!

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Post  sharkey on Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:46 pm

are you using the subframe spacers?

no matter what you do you will have to move the coils. that being said, i cant say ive seen that setup you have used in a v8 swap. any setup ive seen uses a tilton or wilwood bracket that stack the masters vertically. here is what my setup look like

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most people dont angle the bracket towards the strut tower, but i wanted the extra room. if you look around here you will find some other setups people have built.

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Post  MotoRider42HC on Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:36 am

Sharkey,

Is your setup custom-made, or can i buy it somewhere? Part numbers, etc?

(( i wonder if i am trying to install the Kokeln bracket in the wrong direction??? ))

Edit: yes i have the 1/2 spacers installed. i almost forgot them, lol, but caught it at last minute

Thanks!!!
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Post  sharkey on Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:14 am

my setup is custom made using a wilwood universal dual master cylinder bracket.

the kokeln dual master cylinder setup was never built with a v8 swap in mind. you are trying to install it correctly.

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Post  MotoRider42HC on Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:21 am

this one?
https://troyerracecars.com/products/574/wilwood-dual-master-cylinder-mount/?c=asphalt%2Fbrakes%2Fwilwood

do you think something like this might work, too?
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Wilwood-Forward-Swing-Dual-Master-Cylinder-Brake-Pedal,1960.html

i'd like to do as little Fab work as possible, since i'll have to outsource to a local custom shop. i currently can't mill, lathe or weld. someday... someday...

thanks again for your help!!!
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Post  sharkey on Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:18 am

yea the first one is what i used.

it was pretty simple for me to make. started with a 3/16" thick steel plate to bolt to the firewall. i then used some 1" square tubing to build a piece to weld to it and support the master cylinder bracket. add a gusset, built a pushrod using a heim joint and some steel tubing, nothing too hard.

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one member here did make a small batch years ago of a mount that was very similar, and there was one for sale in the classifieds not too long ago. maybe have a look and see if its still there.

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Post  MotoRider42HC on Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:18 am

You are awesome!!! These pictures are perfect! I should be able to have a local shop fab that up, for hopefully not too much. Thanks!!!!!!!!
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Post  87944turbo on Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:08 pm

Is it close if you rotate the Kokeln unit 90 degrees from the orientation in your first pic?

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Post  MotoRider42HC on Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:18 pm

87944turbo wrote:Is it close if you rotate the Kokeln unit 90 degrees from the orientation in your first pic?

It doesn't fit, that way, either... :'(
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Post  Rich L. on Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:32 pm

Yeah, a tough part of the build. I did a custom mount of a Tilton pedal box on the floor. Work, and pedal effort is high, but leaves a nice clean engine bay.

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Post  MotoRider42HC on Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:26 pm

WOW! That is legit!

I definetely need to make the same upgrade, some day. Haha.
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