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Wire Stock 951 Fans to Ignition?
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944Hybrids: 924/944/968 and 928 V8 Conversions :: Technical Stuff (other than motors) :: Electrical Mods
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Wire Stock 951 Fans to Ignition?
Hi guys, my 951 fans are wired in what I believe is the stock manner, in that they continue to run after the engine is turned off until the temp of the radiator cools down enough, and then they turn off.
I'd like them to turn off when I shut the engine off - is there a quick way to rewire them to do that?
I want to do it because:
1) The fans are so loud and when they continue to run after I turn the engine off it makes the car sound/seem like a POS.
2) I think the fans running after the engine is turned off is probably not necessary with the LS1 (the Camaro it came out of didn't do it).
Anyway, any suggestions?
Andy
I'd like them to turn off when I shut the engine off - is there a quick way to rewire them to do that?
I want to do it because:
1) The fans are so loud and when they continue to run after I turn the engine off it makes the car sound/seem like a POS.
2) I think the fans running after the engine is turned off is probably not necessary with the LS1 (the Camaro it came out of didn't do it).
Anyway, any suggestions?
Andy
acorad- Posts : 697
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Re: Wire Stock 951 Fans to Ignition?
1. Two ways to do that: 1. HP tuners allows you to change when they run as well as what temps they come on and off - meaning when the key goes off so do they. ( I lowered my turn on and off temps because factory settings to me were high). 2. Completely rewire them to shut off when key is turned off. BTW after the car is off if they are real loud they could be running on high (guess, maybe) . One way to tell is to hit the a/c button then they go on high speed and if they sound the same as when car is shut off that would explain your loud fan
2. My fans didn't run when the car was first shut off with my LS computer. I have HP tuners and I changed it so they did what the Porsche system did although HP Tuners lets me set how many seconds to run after the car shuts off.
I am using the Porsche system to run fans. I pulled the wires back from the radiator temp sensor and tied them in to the LS computer to run them
The easiest way to do it is find someone close to you with the tuning program - that is the easiest..
HP Tuners lets you set - on / off temps for high and low speeds. meaning if low doesn't cool you down by a certain temp it turns on the high speed. When you turn off the car it should run 'low speed' (which is quiet) for 150 seconds then shuts off. I'm not a master but leaning on the small things.
2. My fans didn't run when the car was first shut off with my LS computer. I have HP tuners and I changed it so they did what the Porsche system did although HP Tuners lets me set how many seconds to run after the car shuts off.
I am using the Porsche system to run fans. I pulled the wires back from the radiator temp sensor and tied them in to the LS computer to run them
The easiest way to do it is find someone close to you with the tuning program - that is the easiest..
HP Tuners lets you set - on / off temps for high and low speeds. meaning if low doesn't cool you down by a certain temp it turns on the high speed. When you turn off the car it should run 'low speed' (which is quiet) for 150 seconds then shuts off. I'm not a master but leaning on the small things.
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gdopnt- Posts : 127
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Re: Wire Stock 951 Fans to Ignition?
Thanks gdopnt, excellent info.
Andy
Andy
acorad- Posts : 697
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Re: Wire Stock 951 Fans to Ignition?
So you like the Audi 5th gear?
gdopnt- Posts : 127
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Re: Wire Stock 951 Fans to Ignition?
Love it. People ask me if I notice a difference from stock. And I did, on like the first 2 times I shifted into 5th, I noticed the change. After that, it was simply 5th gear with better freeway RPMs and better gas mileage.
Andy
Andy
acorad- Posts : 697
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Re: Wire Stock 951 Fans to Ignition?
Im just starting to look for the trans to do that step. thanks.
gdopnt- Posts : 127
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Re: Wire Stock 951 Fans to Ignition?
Andy, when you say "stock manner", do you mean stock Porsche or stock Chevy? If the latter, and your fans are wired into your engine PCM, you can change it with tuning. But if the former, and you still have your stock Porsche thermostat controlling the fans, tuning won't do it.
And it's only the coolest of European cars run fans after shutdown. Personally I want a coolant circulation pump to go with the after-run fans like Audi turbo engines have.
Rich
And it's only the coolest of European cars run fans after shutdown. Personally I want a coolant circulation pump to go with the after-run fans like Audi turbo engines have.
Rich
Rich L.- Posts : 928
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Re: Wire Stock 951 Fans to Ignition?
Thanks Rich, afaik, the fans are tied into the thermometer in the rad, and after the engine is turned off the fans turn off when the rad cools down to a certain temp.
Is that the stock Porsche manner?
Andy
Is that the stock Porsche manner?
Andy
acorad- Posts : 697
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Re: Wire Stock 951 Fans to Ignition?
I would bet the tempostat in the radiator is wired into the LS computer so the Porsche fan relays control the high/low fan speeds. The only way the fans could continue to run after the car is shut off is if the fans are controlled by a computer. So, as above it will need reprogramming to have the fans turn off at engine shutdown.
Arthropraxis- Posts : 1103
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Re: Wire Stock 951 Fans to Ignition?
Thanks Anthro.
Andy
Andy
acorad- Posts : 697
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Re: Wire Stock 951 Fans to Ignition?
If the radiator temp switch wires run to the LS computer an then into the Porsche system this is the screen you would use to change the fans in HP Tuners.
The upper half of the fan selection (the drop down box is long so I split it in half)
The lower half of the fan selection
At the very bottom you see how many seconds is in the box. It takes 5 minutes or less to change the setting. The reason you would need a tuner to change the setting is because when you buy the program you get 8 credits. 8 credits means you can change 4 cars. To change multiple cars you pay for different program use. The program with 8 credits is about $650.00
The upper half of the fan selection (the drop down box is long so I split it in half)
The lower half of the fan selection
At the very bottom you see how many seconds is in the box. It takes 5 minutes or less to change the setting. The reason you would need a tuner to change the setting is because when you buy the program you get 8 credits. 8 credits means you can change 4 cars. To change multiple cars you pay for different program use. The program with 8 credits is about $650.00
gdopnt- Posts : 127
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Re: Wire Stock 951 Fans to Ignition?
acorad wrote:after the engine is turned off the fans turn off when the rad cools down to a certain temp.
Is that the stock Porsche manner?
Yes. That's how my car operates with just the stock Porsche wiring, thermostat and fans.
Rich
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Re: Wire Stock 951 Fans to Ignition?
Thanks guys!
Andy
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