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docwyte Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:13 pm
Just got a great deal on a brand new set of 993TT Big Red calipers, pads and rotors.
The hat offset may not be right on the rotors, but I figure some 993 guy will want them and I can replace them with 965 rotors and away I'll go.
Direct bolt on to my 944 Turbo S, which is even better!
The hat offset may not be right on the rotors, but I figure some 993 guy will want them and I can replace them with 965 rotors and away I'll go.
Direct bolt on to my 944 Turbo S, which is even better!
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Rich L. Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:36 pm
Nice find, Doc! These hats will make those 993 rotor rings work. But yeah, they're more money than new 965 rotors.
http://www.lindseyracing.com/LR/Porsche/944BRAKEPART/LRA-8789-BBHAT.html
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http://www.lindseyracing.com/LR/Porsche/944BRAKEPART/LRA-8789-BBHAT.html
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docwyte Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:15 pm
Yeah, tell me about it, especially since it's getting to be very difficult to find the Big Red and Big Black calipers. Porsche is out of them and apparently their supplier is having some sort of difficulty making them, so who knows when they'll be back in stock.
I saw those hats, they won't work on my car since it's an S, so it has the M030 stuff. So I'll either have to source another set of hats or get the 3.6 965 rotors. Or maybe I'll get lucky and the rotors that are coming will directly bolt on...
I saw those hats, they won't work on my car since it's an S, so it has the M030 stuff. So I'll either have to source another set of hats or get the 3.6 965 rotors. Or maybe I'll get lucky and the rotors that are coming will directly bolt on...
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Rich L. Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:29 pm
You don't think they'll work? I'm running the Turbo S spindles, hubs, calipers and rotors. I thought I could go 993tt calipers and rotors with those hats. I guess the question is: did they put the extra 3mm of offset into the hat or into the non-m030 caliper adapter?
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docwyte Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:35 pm
My understanding is the 993TT rotors should bolt right onto my M030 stuff, but I haven't done it and don't know anyone who personally has, so until I do I'm not totally sure. I KNOW the 965 3.6 rotors bolt right on to the M030 and fit perfectly. I'll know by the end of the month if the 993TT rotors do.
The 993TT Big Red and the 928GTS Big Black calipers are a direct bolt on to the M030 stuff.
The 993TT Big Red and the 928GTS Big Black calipers are a direct bolt on to the M030 stuff.
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docwyte Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:39 pm
Will do. Stuff is getting shipped to me tomorrow, so it'll be my project to install it the last weekend of this month.
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xschop Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:02 pm
I was supposed to be getting a set of those calps to mock up on the 330mm Cayenne rotors. I've been running the Cayenne rotors under the Lexus calps for a while now 
The Germans made the M030 hubs 3mm taller than the NA/951 Hubs
Years ago I cheated and made a 3mm hub spacer and adapter for an NA hub/spindle. I should have recorded the dimensions.....hindsight
M030 hub on the right....
The Germans made the M030 hubs 3mm taller than the NA/951 Hubs
Years ago I cheated and made a 3mm hub spacer and adapter for an NA hub/spindle. I should have recorded the dimensions.....hindsight
M030 hub on the right....
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Lemming Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:13 am
Doc,
Do you collect data while on the track (traqmate or such)? I'm interested in seeing data on the new setup relative to the turbo S brakes that you were running.
Do you collect data while on the track (traqmate or such)? I'm interested in seeing data on the new setup relative to the turbo S brakes that you were running.
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docwyte Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:55 am
Nope, I haven't gotten to that level yet, just lap times and observations on wear. I was getting 1 season out of a set of rotors and pads. I'd wear the pads out and crack the rotors.
I upgraded mostly because it wasn't really any more expensive than replacing the pads/rotors I already had. Figured the bigger heat sinks wouldn't hurt...
I upgraded mostly because it wasn't really any more expensive than replacing the pads/rotors I already had. Figured the bigger heat sinks wouldn't hurt...
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kevin924kevin Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:41 pm
I have the big blacks and 993tt rotors on my car with the hats from lindsy , my spindles are the S2. there are pics in my new build.
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944-LT1 Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:55 pm
If youre driving your car on the street as well, I strongly suggest to anyone with 993TT brakes to get the vibration dampers as well. These brakes chatter and squeal quite a bit. But measure your pistons just to be sure before ordering.
964-351-096-00-M260 = 44mm
964-351-096-01-M260 = 36mm
964-351-096-00-M260 = 44mm
964-351-096-01-M260 = 36mm
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xschop Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:12 am
993TT and 996TT front calipers have different piston sizes.
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Rich L. Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:17 pm
944-LT1 wrote:If youre driving your car on the street as well, I strongly suggest to anyone with 993TT brakes to get the vibration dampers as well.
I've got a used set of these dampers if anyone wants them. Size may matter but noise really doesn't.
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944-LT1 Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:38 pm
xschop wrote:993TT and 996TT front calipers have different piston sizes.
The human brain weighs 8 pounds.
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Lemming Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:13 pm
944-LT1 wrote:xschop wrote:993TT and 996TT front calipers have different piston sizes.
The human brain weighs 8 pounds.
Mines heavier
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docwyte Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:39 pm
I'll take them Rich. What do you want for them?
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kevin924kevin Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:43 pm
Hey, mine are standard S2 nothing fancy, good tip on the vibe dampeners.
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docwyte Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:55 pm
Gotcha, that's probably why you needed the Lindsey hats. I think with M030 stuff they're a direct bolt on. I'll find out next Friday when I try...
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87-944S Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:21 pm
I have big blacks, 993TT rotors and Lindsey aluminum hats, the calipers are mounted on Lindsey adapters to 1994 968 spindles, basically standard turbo or S2 spindles, with the latest version of the hubs. All fit pefectly, interesting that the M030 hubs are 3mm thicker, good to know,. I got my big blacks new from Sunset Porsche, if I remember correctly, they were less than half as much a piece cheaper than Lindsey's price for big reds. Plus I wanted black calipers 
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docwyte Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:24 pm
Yes, the Big Blacks are $290 each from Sunset, the Big Reds are $450ish. Problem is Porsche is literally OUT of Big Black and Big Red calipers. Not they gotta come from Germany, literally Porsche has to make more, than they gotta come from Germany.
So unless the vendor has them sitting on their shelves, they can't get them. I tried to order the Big Blacks from Sunset last week and discovered this. Luckily I happened into a brand new "kit" that someone was selling on Rennlist that included Big Reds, street pads, and rotors.
So unless the vendor has them sitting on their shelves, they can't get them. I tried to order the Big Blacks from Sunset last week and discovered this. Luckily I happened into a brand new "kit" that someone was selling on Rennlist that included Big Reds, street pads, and rotors.
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docwyte Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:09 pm
Yep, complete kit with stainless lines, bolts etc. Price was right too...
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docwyte Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:44 am
Got them on the car last night. Rotors were 1 piece 965 rotors, so they bolted right up. Everything fit fine, no problems. Did a full brake fluid flush and the car should be good to go.
Managed to squash my left pinky in a jack stand though, have a blue finger nail and it hurts like hell. Working today is going to suck.
Managed to squash my left pinky in a jack stand though, have a blue finger nail and it hurts like hell. Working today is going to suck.
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