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Post  robstah on Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:54 pm

Hey guys,

I am trying to find some hard line that I can bend and then flare to a -10AN for the Moroso 20140. The idea is to run the hard line down the side of the oil pan and then flare off to the soft lines closer to the front. Right now, I am extremely close to the headers and due to the angled -10AN fittings, I can't push them any closer to the oil pan. After tucking the lines closer in, I can then add an aluminum heat shield to cover the whole deal and keep as much heat from the exhaust away. Any clue on where I can find this line?

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Post  robstah on Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:09 pm

Alright, after searching for "tubing" instead of "hard line", I was able to find this:

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Think that will work alright? I plan to add supporting brackets.

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Post  Rich L. on Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:37 pm

I've been thinking about hard lines for some of the oil system too. Like you said, the packaging of long tube headers around two 90 degree -10 hose ends is tough. I was looking at Summit's tube adapters and 5/8" aluminimum tubing.

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Keep us posted on this if you try it.

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Post  948inVA on Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:08 pm

Those tube fittings are only rated to 50psi.. probably not going to work.
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Post  944-LT1 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:24 pm

I agree, I think thats the better way to plumb it all up. Some 10AN line, 10AN tube sleeves and 10AN tube nuts.


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Post  robstah on Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:13 pm

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This is probably the cheapest one I can find with a 5/8" flare. By the time I am done with this car, I'll have every flare tool on the market Razz

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Post  944-LT1 on Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:57 pm

There you go! Nice find.

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Post  Marky522 on Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:38 pm

Good luck! I bought all the tools and went down that road... check my thread for pics of the best i was able to do. The -10 doesnt want to bend tight enough, and believe me I tried... I hope you figure something out!

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Post  robstah on Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:03 pm

Marky522 wrote:Good luck! I bought all the tools and went down that road... check my thread for pics of the best i was able to do. The -10 doesnt want to bend tight enough, and believe me I tried... I hope you figure something out!

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There isn't a picture in your build thread that shows the oil pan -10 connection and routing.

What I have there already bends enough, but hits against the collar of the adapter that converts it to hose. The hose, albeit covered in high temp shielding, is 1-2mm away from the headers and that needs to get fixed.

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Post  Rich L. on Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:00 am

Hey Robstah. I got my hoses installed last night in the normal way, -10 hose with 90 degree ends. Like you describe with yours, things are very tight to the exhaust header. But the headers are coated and I've shielded the hoses in sleeving too so maybe it'll be okay.

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I didn't experiment with the hard tubing as I haven't found any with higher pressure limits. But I would like to figure out another way to do this routing.

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Post  robstah on Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:41 pm

Mine is very similar to that, but I have a different pan than yours. Where your pan almost requires you to go out with the hose, mine has an area down the side that I can route the hard lines down and then back out farther up the engine. Doing so should get me away from the headers.

I too have coated headers and heat shields over the hose. I have a feeling that it would be fine, but I am pretty OCD when it comes to these types of details.

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Post  Rich L. on Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:34 pm

Well... mine failed. The upper hose that bends toward the header touched and melted through. It made a spectacular cloud of smoke and shutdown the track for half an hour while we swept kitty litter.

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So I'm back looking for a better solution. Have you gotten any further looking into hard lines? Could a different combination of angled fittings get hoses around this?

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Post  robstah on Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:35 am

Rich,

While I was removing the lines, I was able to push the front one as close as possible to the pan and then install the rear. If you don't try to follow the front and rear together, you should be able to gain an inch between the headers. I was able to do so with two 90 degree adapters and hose. Ideally, you can probably achieve even more space when using a 45 degree adapter for the rear channel.

As for hard line, it's possible, but I do not have a bender that will work well. A tip for not kinking the lines would be to use sand inside the tubes when bending. Apparently ice and there is some type of metal that breaks down with heat that you can use as a temporary filler as well. Since I was able to get the hose to fit nicely, I'll probably use the hard line later to route for an oil cooler.

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