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Post  Michael B. on Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:27 pm

sbwrench wrote:Hey Michael B!

How's things?Car still looks great.

Hey hey! Long time no hear my man. Ohhh I have heard that they are really going fast at RA with the better pavement & runoff areas. I plan on going back in '12 with one of my other cars just to have fun with some pals. I hope its as good as I have heard.

Man, your word settles it. I will order up the electric brake kit next week. I will just sell off my Mustang Hydroboost set up. The electric set up while priced up seems SO easy to implement. I am all over that like stink on a monkey. bounce

Watch this space!
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Post  Rich L. on Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:47 pm

Lemming wrote:OK, am I blind? Where's the link?

I was browsing the other videos he's uploaded.

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Post  fliermike45 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:04 pm

Electric Brake Kit....Did I miss something here???

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Post  Rich L. on Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:13 pm

fliermike45 wrote:Electric Brake Kit....

They're talking about these setups. Squires, a shop up here in the Seattle area, uses these brake masters for their 944 v8 conversions as well. A pricey but nice solution.

http://www.abspowerbrake.com/ehpm.html

No affiliation with either ABS or Squires.

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Post  sbwrench on Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:03 pm

Basically the kit comes with a m/c (no choice on bore size or anything) an electric powered accumulator and a resevoir, go with the remote resevoir. The accumulator can mount anywhere, mines on the drivers side front frame rail where the stock tie down tab lives. You need switched and unswitched 12 volts and a ground to the accumulator. A low pressure drain hose goes from the m/c to the accumulator and a high pressure braided stainless dash 3 goes from the accumulator to the m/c. A feed goes from the resevoir to the m/c. Thats it.

Instead of boosting the pedal to the m/c like most systems it pressurizes the fluid to the calipers. My one and only time I fit a guage I seem to recall something like 2000 psi at the caliper. If you have any kind of failure the worst that happens is it goes back to full manual braking, which can be a bit of a surprise but at least you can leg into it and get it stopped.

I had to build an adapter plate to mount it to the firewall but they supplied me with a rod and clevis that bolted right up to the pedal. You might need to supply dimensions. It was close to $1k but has been virtually bullet proof and the difference is night and day. Joe was using one on his One Lap of America car but ran into some problems that turned out to be associated with lines running to close to the exhaust.

It bleeds up quick and works really well. Unlike a hydroboost it will give you about 15 assited stops if you have a power failure. I think the hydroboost is good for 3 or 4 IIRC. Happy to answer any questions.

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Post  Lemming on Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:40 pm

xschop wrote:Michael, do you have pics/info on the springs-coilovers for the rears. What size rear coilover spring did you go with since you left the torsion bars put, which is what I want to do. I have to do a cooler relo kit before I can install my rear coilovers and have not bought the springs yet. Thanks and great car/build you have there. Definitely representing us Hybriders properly. Cool

If you are going with coilovers, get rid of the T-bars. The only reason to keep them is if you race rules say that they cannot be removed. In those cases most go with hollow t-bars or turn them to 10mm. If you keep them, you will have to reindex them during the install and anytime you want to make a change to ride height.
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Post  Michael B. on Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:23 pm

Lemming wrote:
If you are going with coilovers, get rid of the T-bars. The only reason to keep them is if you race rules say that they cannot be removed. In those cases most go with hollow t-bars or turn them to 10mm. If you keep them, you will have to reindex them during the install and anytime you want to make a change to ride height.

I had a couple reasons why I did this... 6 years ago +/-... Including some of those reasons listed above (the rule books were actually re-written in my Zone just to keep my car out of a NASA racing class). At this point I can tell you that it works real well, and it is time & track proven. But you all can do what you want, and then drive it the way you want. I will just keep up my end of the deal & stick with what I am doing.
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Post  xschop on Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:38 pm

So what year is your car? (what size T-bars?) and what O.D. and spring rate (#) is the coilover you run. I see that you run a factory lower shock bolt and rubber bushing which is what I'm goint to do. I made my lower shock bolts out of 300M and I wouldn't worry about breaking them even if I removed the Torsion bars, just don't want to, and add coilovers.
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Post  Michael B. on Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:30 pm

xschop wrote:So what year is your car? and what O.D. and spring rate (#) is the coilover you run.

Its an '87 S, factory TB's in place, that coil-over info is listed on page one here in this thread. study
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Post  Michael B. on Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:25 pm

Threw on a little "aero" today:

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2004 Porsche GT3 splitter. Custom fit, looks like it will do.
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Post  kevin924kevin on Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:19 pm

xschop, would you concider making a another set of those shock bolts, with my aplication, my torsion rods have to be removed.
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Post  xschop on Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:33 pm

As long as you are running rubber bushings a 12.9 Bolt will work fine. The ones I made are overkill.
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Post  Lemming on Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:14 am

Michael B. wrote:Threw on a little "aero" today:

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2004 Porsche GT3 splitter. Custom fit, looks like it will do.

Be careful your first time out at speed, you may have to balance that with a larger rear spoiler or wing. In my last car (969 powered 924S) I was having issues with front end float at speed (T9 at Road Atlanta). Put on a three inch from splitter and went back to RA. Front end stuck like glue, rear end was now loose at speed. I ended up adding a wing and the car was much much better than before with no aero.
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Post  Michael B. on Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:32 pm

Lemming wrote:
Be careful your first time out at speed, you may have to balance that with a larger rear spoiler or wing. In my last car (969 powered 924S) I was having issues with front end float at speed (T9 at Road Atlanta). Put on a three inch from splitter and went back to RA. Front end stuck like glue, rear end was now loose at speed. I ended up adding a wing and the car was much much better than before with no aero.

Holy Moly! affraid Well I hope that wont be an issue. I have thought of adding something out back, custom... At the Spectre top speed is only about 140, so I hope that wont be a factor, but I will test it before hand now. That note is appreciated.
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Post  Lemming on Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:42 pm

It caught me off guard and the imbalance was noticeable at 100 and above.
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Post  Michael B. on Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:28 pm

Drove it again today. This car is trying to get me. The new SPEC clutch guys did get me a nice clutch pack but they DID NOT send the slave "shim" that some of these setups need... So guess what? The pedal is deep in the carpet before I get clutch release. scratch I called SPEC & spoke with the team there. They stated that the shim should have been with my stuff (sorry, nope) but that if I can actually drive the car (It drove real well; other than the extremely low clutch action) that I should not need the shim. He asked that I try a clutch bleed before I take the CV axles, transaxle, torque tube and etc. back out for installation of this missing ten cent part.

I was thrilled. Mad

So I will try a bleed (but the system worked well with the other clutch, and I did not break the clutch hydraulics open)... And maybe look to see if I can adjust the clutch pedal rod for some advantage.

Its a good thing that I drove the car though, as it "supercharged" my efforts. Sideways at 110 MPH will do that to a gear-head guy I guess. Dang car is funnnnn Exclamation

Until later:

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Post  kevin924kevin on Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:01 pm

Can you post a side veiw of the hood from low so we can see the height. thanks.
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Post  Michael B. on Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:07 pm

Let me see if I can dig one up. I had to do that amount of rise custom myself to fit... and even so it still will make contact with the blower pulley if I shut the hood with vigor Shocked Its A LOT of rise BTW... I think is sorta messes up the excellent drivers perspective / line of site out the windshield the 944 has naturally.
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Post  kevin924kevin on Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:21 pm

Thanks, but it's a good evil.
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Post  docwyte on Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:14 am

Interesting about the splitter. I've got a front splitter too, with the factory rear wing and have been having issues with getting the rear end to plant on the track. Wonder if I have an aero imbalance...

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Post  Michael B. on Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:19 pm

kevin924kevin wrote:Thanks, but it's a good evil.

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Post  kevin924kevin on Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:21 pm

I like the look. Thank you.
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Post  Michael B. on Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:02 pm

Spectre today refunded my entry fee & has postponed their open road race until 2013. So I have shifted to the Optima Batteries Ultimate Street Car event in association with SEMA.

Optima Invitational

Work on the car has been going very well. I have been completing the body work and then I will finish the car with an upgrade to my brake assist with the hopes of garnering my invite to this next event.

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Post  JFettig on Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:37 am

Looks good.

550hp, how much torque are you sending through that transmission?

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Post  RobotMachines on Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:27 pm

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kevin924kevin wrote:Question, what kind of blower/supercharger is that, that would be a nice addition to a LS3 with a stage two cam. How much HP added with that unit.very interesting!

Oh yes, its an Eaton style by Manguson (Magnacharger). Same style that would have been on say a factory AMG Benz, or ZR1 Vette, Roush Mustang etc. I had a choice way back when I installed it, go hair drier style (Pro-Charger) or top mount twin screw. Obviously you can see what I chose. They are very efficient in comparison. Look for up to 150HP gained by bolting it on. Relatively low boost too (7psi). I actually pulled the power back as it was just blowing the tires off in any gear (295/18 soft compound) with this light chassis set up. It still spins 'em at will.

At a race like the Spectre at its high altitude you need forced induction. So this set up is well suited.
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