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Post  acorad on Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:16 am

V8, I've just spent hours googling and have had no luck. The 016 0.64 5th 3U & 0.48 5th 3Q seem to be European-only. And I can't find any info on the APN & APP, which models did they come in?
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Post  acorad on Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:01 pm

Well, I had no luck in sourcing an 0.60 or 0.64 Audi 016 5th gear/trans (Europe only, afaik) but I did find several US Audi 5000 diesel 016 trans w/0.68 5th, so that's the route I'm taking.
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Post  87-944S on Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:46 pm

Is that a direct 5th gear swap like the early N/A 5th swap? What do those Audi boxes go for? Any drop in RPM at cruising is a good thing to me.
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Post  acorad on Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:32 pm

Yes, direct swap. The ones I found were 150-200 ea.
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Post  acorad on Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:57 pm

Well, it turns out the transaxle w/protection is over 150 lbs, so UPS won't ship it.

Although there are other, more expensive shipping options, would it be OK to have the parts yard separate the trans from the diff and just ship the trans?

Or would you not trust that the guys there could do this w/o messing up the trans?

I've never messed with a trans before.
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Post  v8carreragts on Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:58 pm

They probably wouldn't want to open the transaxle because the diff is internal. You take the side cover off and lift the diff out. You can't separate it like a 928. Although if you were lucky to find one it should reduce the weight enough to ship UPS.

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Post  kevin924kevin on Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:29 pm

According to the info provided to me when i was at RH shop in vegas, the fifth gear swap should have the car at about 2300 RPM at 70 MPH based on 25" wheels etc. They say the swap will allow the car to run up to 181 MPH at 6000 RPM.
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Post  acorad on Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:29 pm

v8carreragts wrote:They probably wouldn't want to open the transaxle because the diff is internal. You take the side cover off and lift the diff out. You can't separate it like a 928. Although if you were lucky to find one it should reduce the weight enough to ship UPS.

V8, thanks. I'll tell him to just remove both side covers and pull out all the guts that he can.

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Post  acorad on Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:38 pm

kevin924kevin wrote:According to the info provided to me when i was at RH shop in vegas, the fifth gear swap should have the car at about 2300 RPM at 70 MPH based on 25" wheels etc. They say the swap will allow the car to run up to 181 MPH at 6000 RPM.
Sounds about right. I'm at about 2900 at 70 mph now with my turbo 0.83 5th, the 0.68 should get me to around 2350 at 70. No idea about the top speed - I'm married with two young kids, I won't go any where near the top speed!
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Post  acorad on Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:25 pm

fyi, from my research: the swappable 0.68 5th gear is in '80-'82 Audi 5000 Diesels w/trans codes: UF, MN, BMO, WV, UW, MO, MR, AAW, AAV, AAY, AAX, AMM, & AMN.

edit: And from my research, the 0.68 is the tallest USA spec gear available.


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Post  remington7 on Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:25 pm

Arthropraxis wrote:Larger tire/wheel combinations can lower the RPM. Get some 24" spinners, you know you want to.

That would be an interesting setup. bounce

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Post  UK952 on Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:33 pm

kevin924kevin wrote:According to the info provided to me when i was at RH shop in vegas, the fifth gear swap should have the car at about 2300 RPM at 70 MPH based on 25" wheels etc. They say the swap will allow the car to run up to 181 MPH at 6000 RPM.

6,900 at 210 Wink probably need about 800BHP
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Post  xschop on Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:02 am

Hey Acorad, did you ever locate the 0.64 gearset?
I signed on the Audi forums to put a feeler out. I would like to be at 2200-2400 RPM on the freeway at 70
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Post  acorad on Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:27 pm

xschop wrote:Hey Acorad, did you ever locate the 0.64 gearset?
I signed on the Audi forums to put a feeler out. I would like to be at 2200-2400 RPM on the freeway at 70
No. The 0.64 was Europe only, afaik.

The 0.68 calculates out to about 2450 RPM at 75 mph for my setup, the 0.64 would be about 2300 RPM at 75 mph.

Let me know if you find the 0.64, I'd be interested in one too.

Were you the one who swapped out your 5th gear through the fender well? Love to hear a little more about that!
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Post  xschop on Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:07 pm

No, I swapped mine when I took out the NA and stuck in the 951 trans. But if you chop out the wheel well, the swap can be done without removing the trans. My sub wouldn't sound too great if I chopped out the bottom part of the sub-box.

I have 285-30-18 rear tires and am not sure If I can get 295-35-18 under there without rubbing the fenders. So I may get 285-35-18. I think 285-40-18 would be too big of a jump scratch
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Post  acorad on Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:29 pm

Dunno, I have 265-35-18's.
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Post  B.Rudy on Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:06 am

So Ive been searching around here & I cant find any info on tops speeds per each gear. I thinking of doing a .73 5th gear swap into my 951 trans. low cruising RPM is important to me but I also know I dont want to top out in 4th at like 120mph and then shift into a too tall of a 5th gear and the engine comes down out of it power band. So heres my question: whats the top speed of the 951 trans in 4th gear with a 285/30/18-ish tire?
(ive already seen & read about the speeds in 5th that were posted)

Thanks,
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Post  v8carreragts on Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:08 am

PM me with your e-mail address and I can forward you an Excel file that will give you speeds for each gear and tire diameter. It is set up so you input the gear tooth counts, R & P tooth count and tire size and engine RPM's. Then it makes a graph for each gear.
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Post  LEEEZARD7 on Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:34 pm

http://www.kabamus.com/garage/gears.html
TRY THIS ONE GUYS...

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Post  87-944S on Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:15 am

Pretty cool calculator, mine shows just about 215MPH at 7000RPM with the NA 5th gear in my turbo transaxle! Shocked
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Post  fliermike45 on Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:38 am

Here is my shot at the Excel chart, Turbo transmission with NA 5th gear, 17" wheels 225-45-R17 Tires.
Now to find somwhere to run 150 mph.

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Post  fliermike45 on Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:49 am

The Kabamus site gave the 5th gear speed at 5000 as 161.54 mph.

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Post  LEEEZARD7 on Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:26 pm

its fairly accurate... minus aerodynamic drag. it will get you close though.

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Post  the951racer on Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:18 am

Anybody got any further news about the Audi gearsets? Also is the N/A 5th gear swap still give you plenty of "around town torque"?

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Post  acorad on Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:02 am

951, I'll be doing the 5th gear swap from the Audi diesel soon. I'll post up my results.
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