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LS Series 3/4 Length Headers

Post  gt1scca on Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:18 am

I'm gonna beat that dead horse, again...

I have a deal in progress for 3/4 length LS Series headers, available in 1.625" primary (4.8L / 5.3L / LS1) and 1.75" primary (LS2, 3, 6 and 7) tube, 2.5" and 3.0" collector sizes respectively, HPC coated, with V-Band collectors and clamps.

A modified set of LS Conversion headers will be duplicated and produced as 944 / LS1 / 2 / 3 / 6 headers, and will be priced well below RH retail ($150 - $200 less minimum, per set). The only requirement is a "buy-in" order of 5 sets. I know there are at least 5 of you that can't wait for a great header deal...

Well, it's here.

PM or email me (gt1scca@gmail.com) for pricing and ordering details.
The basic design will be similar to what has been posted previously.
I can't invest $3-Grand in headers, but I can get them produced with only 5 orders.

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Re: LS Series 3/4 Length Headers

Post  Bluemach1 on Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:29 am

If only they were approved for use in California!

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Re: LS Series 3/4 Length Headers

Post  Modian on Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:22 pm

Out of curiosity, why not 1.75" for LS1?

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Re: LS Series 3/4 Length Headers

Post  gt1scca on Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:46 pm

Modian wrote:...why not 1.75" for LS1?
Not set in stone...
S&P configures primaries relevant to the LS engines (stock) flow capabilities.
If someone wanted 1.75" primaries, the LS2 / 3 application would need to be specified.

Collector diameter is smaller (2.5" LS1 vs. 3.0" LS2 / 3 / 6 & 7) also.
Another reason to specify LS2 or higher.

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Re: LS Series 3/4 Length Headers

Post  gt1scca on Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:48 pm

Here's the modified driver side header:
PD close to equal-length if you ask me (also resembles a Doug Thorley design).

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(A fixture will be built from this, and the production header will be 100% Mandrel bent seamless tubing. Passenger side fits as is.)

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Post  944v8inDFW on Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:25 pm

How close is the right side in lenght to the modded side?

I am digging the V band and assume the set will come with weld on V and clamps.

Shoot me a PM on price and what type of coating the finished product will have.
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Re: LS Series 3/4 Length Headers

Post  gt1scca on Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:44 pm

V-bands are welded, correct.
Clamps are included.

Before any mods...

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Re: LS Series 3/4 Length Headers

Post  Arthropraxis on Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:01 pm

Just what I have been waiting for. I am definitely interested.
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Very nice!

Post  87-944S on Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:42 pm

Damn, if I didn't have a set of RH headers, I'd be all over those. I was out test fitting the reinforcement plate (thanks Greg it fits perfect!) and my headers show a few rust spots, so much for the pricey ceramic coating. I'd rather have V-bands too!
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Re: LS Series 3/4 Length Headers

Post  Arthropraxis on Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:43 pm

What are the benefits of a V-band? Showing my ignorance here, I googled them and they look like clamps. Is the other option just a straight weld to the collector?
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Re: LS Series 3/4 Length Headers

Post  gt1scca on Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:04 pm

Leak-free. And only 1 bolt to disconnect (plus a hefty screwdriver). The mating flanges are machined, so they seal tight when clamped. No gaskets to burn out, no flimsy stamped steel collector flanges to vibrate loose. No ball and socket to twist apart...

The turbo guys have been using them for a while on turbo and wastegate connections, and the V-bands have finally found their way into collector applications.

I just got these for my LT1 headers:

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87-944S wrote:Damn, if I didn't have a set of RH headers, I'd be all over those. I was out test fitting the reinforcement plate (thanks Greg it fits perfect!) and my headers show a few rust spots, so much for the pricey ceramic coating. I'd rather have V-bands too!
Just for comparison, price-wise you could say these are 3/4 the header RH sells.
Just do the math: 4 full sets (PLUS an extra driver side header) of the S&P headers would be the same cost as 3 sets from DJ Mann. In every other way, well...It just isn't fair to go on and on.

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Re: LS Series 3/4 Length Headers

Post  gt1scca on Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:26 am

944v8inDFW wrote:How close is the right side in length to the modded side?
Here's somewhat of a comparison. I can get some true measurements this weekend.

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Note that the passenger side pic was taken at an odd angle - other than compensating for that, I don't think the collector position has been altered very much.

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Re: LS Series 3/4 Length Headers

Post  gt1scca on Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:08 am

Really?

Only 2, maybe 3 people?
You got ta be kiddin' me...
After all the posts and other header BS?

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Post  Bluemach1 on Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:47 am

Dude, I would be on it like a bonnet but I live in smog nazi land. I need a solution that allows me to pass inspection when I complete the conversion and inspection every two years!

Excellent work though. I am surprised as well that there are not more takers on this!

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Re: LS Series 3/4 Length Headers

Post  gt1scca on Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:03 am

7 Franklins vs. 11 of the same...

Seems like a no-brainer.
I will inquire about a set of CARB-compliant tubes for you Ted.
There has to be something that can be done.

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Re: LS Series 3/4 Length Headers

Post  Bluemach1 on Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:05 am

"7 Franklins vs. 11 of the same"

I know I might be a dullard, but I have no idea what that means. Shocked

Not to hi-jack the thread, but....

I know that others have used the stock manifolds and reconfigured the steering shaft. The only one I know for sure that did it this way was Craig Hardy. He had RH mod the stock manifold. As I understand, they machine the flange at an angle so that it tucks closer to the block. Then the steering shaft is modified with new ujoints and pushed over toward the fenderwell.

My thought (actually someone else here proposed it before me) was to space the stock manifold out from the head, possibly enough to allow the steering shaft to pass behind it.

I would be ECSTATIC if there is a ready made solution out there and would buy today!

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Translated...

Post  gt1scca on Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:39 am

400 less than RH headers w/ V-Bands and clamps.
HPC coated, clamps included, mandrel bent.

RH version starts @ 849, V-Bands and clamps adds 250 = 1100 Fat Boys.
(I'm not giving up yet...)

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Re: LS Series 3/4 Length Headers

Post  robstah on Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:22 pm

I am trying my best to pinch my finances right now. I've got more school to pay for, taxes to pay for (sucks to be a contractor with no benefits/taxes withheld), and etc. I am not going to jump in until I can send you the money, simple as that.

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Post  gt1scca on Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:14 pm

robstah wrote:I am not going to jump in until I can send you the money, simple as that.
Easy Rob...

Not a personal call-out, I too have prior commitments.
Just lighting the fire... Laughing

Latest email indicated we now have the "committed" Buy-In, and the owner of S&P will push through the Dealer Application. I am contacting Alan concerning collector location Rick, and also for earliest shipping to S&P.

Good to know that I can still "Shake-It-Up".

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Post  gt1scca on Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:14 pm

Engine and headers are going back in Alan's car next week for pictures and verification, before shipping the headers to S&P. The driver side collector did move ~2" rearward for clearance, and we'll have some pics by the end of next week. Moving the passenger side collector should not be a major problem for S&P.

Once everything is finalized, I'll list them with a PayPal link on 944V8S.

Thanks guys.
Very "Spin-tastic".

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Post  944-LT1 on Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:26 pm

I would be ALLLLL over this! For years we have been trying to figure a way to get a set of mid/long tube headers for the LS. I myself have spent hours trying to find a set that would work. Finally I gave up and since I was at the point of needing the headers, I decided to make my own. I bought all the pipes, collectors and alignment sleeves and am in the process of getting it all figured out.

I totally understand why you are frustrated.

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Post  p928sfan on Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:37 am

I'm interested in them. However, I also live in a smog nazi area (maybe not as bad as CA, but AZ's trying hard to catch up Very Happy ), and would need something similar. Let me know if that option works out.

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Re: LS Series 3/4 Length Headers

Post  gt1scca on Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:53 am

I'll keep everyone updated as thing progress, including something for the Smog Nazi's.
I haven't found a CARB legal header through S&P yet, but I know one exists somewhere...

Anyone up for modifying a prototype CARB header if I find one?

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Post  gt1scca on Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:17 am

Final fitment of the headers is complete. This is a prototype, and will be sent to S&P for fixture assembly. The final version will be 100% mandrel-bent primaries.

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I will send PayPal invoices to those of you who have expressed serious interest, and this deal will finally come to life. This will need to be a 5+ sets order, so if you can't order now, save the invoice for when you can. It will take 5 sets minimum to get production started, hence the reason for the invoices.

Not pressuring anyone here - only trying to insure this happens for everyone.

Thanks guys,
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Post  Bluemach1 on Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:45 pm

Those are some of the best pictures I have seen that show the steering shaft header clearance. I really had no idea what the angle of attack would need to be using the stock exhaust manifold. I think it still might work but the idea of pushing it outward from the head is not sounding so good now. Tucking closer to the block is probably the way to go...

Very good looking headers. The final "production" sets should be very nice. I would take a set today but I would never get through my inspection with the Bureau of Automative Repair. Californication = getting "F"ed by the smogman!

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