HOW TO DO AN ADVANCED SEARCH.

Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:56 pm by Admin


For the benefit of 944Hybrids users there are two search functions available for you to use.
The purpose of this sticky is to explain the "Advanced Search" function because it is much more powerful and is the best choice when researching information.

When you log on to the site a list of options is shown in a line at the top of the page. One option is labelled "Search", use this option (NOT the search box lower down on the right).

After you click on the upper search option, a drop down box appears. At the bottom of this box is a radio button marked "Advanced …

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Post  968gene on Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:22 pm

Car is back. Not happy with the paint or body work, but it will have to do for now.

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Re: getting a little closer

Post  Admin on Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:34 pm

Why is it no matter how much you want it, the body guy's can't get it to your liking? I have seen that happen a dozen times. And it sucks. Shocked

Do you have any pictures of how you mounted your front bumper?

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Post  speedracing944 on Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:14 am

Body work is very time consuming to do right. It seems everybody wants a $6000 paint job for $1000. Usually the quality of work is proportional to the amount of money put in.

I did a little paint work on my 944 years ago and it turned out real nice. Afterwards I calculated my hourly rate to be about $3 and hour based on what a normal shop would have charged. I had a whole new respect for body prep and paint work.

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Post  skywalker01 on Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:28 am

I agree with speedracing's comments - the amount of time I have put into making sure spacing is equal and all of the panels are smooth is ridiculous. Not to mention making some of the aftermarket parts look decent is an art in itself. Depending on where you pick up your bodykit, you'll find that hardcore racers are less discriminating in the aesthetics of the car than weight loss/durability. I know that I have spent over several thousand in labor and products (not including the half gallon that is looking good on the floor of my garage)
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Post  968gene on Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:09 am

Come and look at my car, the original order, the receipt and then make stupid comment like this:

"...It seems everybody wants a $6000 paint job for $1000..."
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Post  Admin on Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:38 am

Sorry to hear that your body kit was inferior in quality, Skywalker. That is why I try to make all my fiberglass parts as slick and easy to prep as possible. I make them light weight for the racer's such as Gene,Nice bumper by the way Very Happy , and build them more for the street cars as far as looks go. I hate body prep. I have seen countless paint jobs that I commented on that if they would have just done this instead of that. I think most, not all , body guy's like what they are doing ,but get tired of the car that they are working on and start to cut corners. Then its up to the painter to "fix" those things and in the end it looks like sh**. I have seen many hours put into a bad paint job to.

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Post  skywalker01 on Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:44 am

I've learned that nothing beats the original parts - IFC Racing parts has been the closest yet. I have not had any problems with them (so far Very Happy ). My comment was on GTRacing.com parts - I was definitely not pleased with their hatch. I think Speedy's comment was not meant as a slight, but those of us who have attempted painting our cars understand that in order to have that car show quality (or slightly less) that we all expect, a significant amount of time, effort/material ($$$$$!!), is unfortunately required.
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Post  944-LT1 on Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:00 am

I also agree. All my fenders are from gtracing which meant ALOT of fitting and finishing. Took a very long time to get it half decent and Im still not happy with it. Nevertheless, Im not a professional but if I was and Gene brought that car to me, I would have done everything in my power to make it as perfect as possible regardless of what he paid (well, within reason of course)....because my name is on it now and if I cut corners to save a buck, everytime Gene talked about his car, he would curse me and my business! We all know what happens to businesses that do shoty business..... Razz

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Post  v8carreragts on Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:51 am

Body work is something that is very difficult to get done correctly. It takes LOTS of hours to and there are not many guys that can really do a good job at any price. So just because you pay a lot doesn't mean you get a good job. Sometimes you can go to a good shop and still be unsatisfied.

That's why I do all of my own work. I wish I had the time to make all of my own fiberglass as well.

It does go both ways too. Some people do want a $6000 paint job for $1000 and others do not. I used to paint cars for people but stopped because of people like this. Years ago I re-painted a 72 911T for a guy (black re-paint) and the car didn't need any body work other than prep. I did this for $2500 (maybe 1985) and he was so happy with it he was giggly. Then I did a 72 LeMans for a friend of a friend that had a destroyed left fender and door. He just wanted it fixed and one color (so he said) I replaced the fender and straightened the door, block sanded the car and painted it. I thought it looked very nice for the $1000 he paid. (including the new GM fender) The guy was pissed because it didn't look like the 911 I just did and my car which was a 72 Trans Am that had 100's of hours into the bodywork and pearlescent paint. He figured his car would look just like mine for $1000.

I'm am sorry you car didn't come out like you expected however.
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Post  skywalker01 on Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:57 am

I think 944-LT1 hit the nail squarely on the head with his comment "....because my name is on it now and if I cut corners to save a buck, everytime Gene talked about his car, he would curse me and my business! We all know what happens to businesses that do shoty business." (Shoddy work is even worse! Smile).
I think this is where the 'trusted friends referral system' comes into action - but I would never be satisfied with the work for the amount of money I'd be willing to pay, so I will continue to try and do the work myself (and hopefully develop some skills that make the expense worthwhile).
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Post  v8carreragts on Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:34 pm

[quoteI think 944-LT1 hit the nail squarely on the head with his comment "....because my name is on it now and if I cut corners to save a buck, everytime Gene talked about his car, he would curse me and my business! We all know what happens to businesses that do shoty business." (Shoddy work is even worse! ).[/quote]

I think it should be like that as well, but it seems lately that people don't seem to care if you are not satisfied. There always seems to be enough customers that will use those shops anyway. Maybe it's me but it seems like it is getting that way everywhere, not just in car stuff.

[quoteo I will continue to try and do the work myself (and hopefully develop some skills that make the expense worthwhile).[/quote]

This is how I got to where I am today. I could never afford the prices so I started doing everything myself. This can help you in other places as well and helps you to be creative and think of ways to do things differently.
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Post  2cousins on Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:41 pm

Looks OK for a track car. Like the header panel, custom? Mirrors look fast. Fender wells.....crap.

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Post  968gene on Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:41 pm

header panel is welded, but poorly. mirrors are eBay $15 specials.
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Post  gt1scca on Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:45 pm

944-LT1 wrote:...because my name is on it now.
Gene,
That sucks, man.
I think trying to get something done right being labeled as a "vendor" is even worse.


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Post  968gene on Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:08 pm

I need a VSS kit
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Post  gt1scca on Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:12 pm

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