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Tilton Dual MC Setup

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Post  xschop on Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:05 am

The grey colored tapered bellow from the rear side of the Vacuum booster may work, but I am going to use a 1/16" rubber gasket traced the perimeter of the Firewall plate, install it on the back side with a 1/4" hole in it for the push rod.
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Re: Tilton Dual MC Setup

Post  Tetzuoe on Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:14 pm

very cool, cant wait!

im particularly interested in how much space this offers around the valve cover, since those of us with perimeter bolt valve covers (early LS) have that big filler neck to deal with.
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Re: Tilton Dual MC Setup

Post  xschop on Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:30 pm

That's funny, It clears the truck valve cover snout and the coils mounted in their stock location, just not sure about how far away it will be from the modded 2312 header, but the pic provided by J.J. looks to be more than 1" from wher it sits when I mocked it up.
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Re: Tilton Dual MC Setup

Post  Tetzuoe on Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:40 pm

I dont think its higher than the coils (id have to take another look) sounds promising
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Post  xschop on Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:58 pm

Got my modded 2312 header in the mail today, got it home and stuck it on the block.......
Booyah, the Dual MC housing will clear by a few inches. I will start machining the housing soon now that I know it clears.
BTW, JJ did a nice job of deciphering the custom bends needed to make it fit like a glove. My welder is going to TIG it up this weekend. Very Happy
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Re: Tilton Dual MC Setup

Post  turbobob924 on Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:39 am

Sweet, post some pics!
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Re: Tilton Dual MC Setup

Post  xschop on Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:09 pm

OK. got the modded 2312 header bolted on after doing surgery to that block protrusion JJ posted about in the header thread, fitted the drive shaft and everything is good to go there. The question is ...
how close is too close for the modded header to come to the lower MC on the Dual MC housing? It will be exactly 2.25" on my setup (1" X-member drop) and would come 1.25" on a car that had no X-member drop.
I can machine the housing at a 10-15 deg. angle and get it further away.
BTW, it clears the coil packs by 3" bounce
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Re: Tilton Dual MC Setup

Post  xschop on Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:57 am

""""""how close is too close for the modded header to come to the lower MC"""""
Surely someone has some experience here.
Anyways, I am revising the diagram so the housing will mate at an angle just like the stock MC does.
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Re: Tilton Dual MC Setup

Post  948 on Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:27 am

xschop wrote:""""""how close is too close for the modded header to come to the lower MC"""""
Surely someone has some experience here.
Anyways, I am revising the diagram so the housing will mate at an angle just like the stock MC does.
I don't know "how close is too close"..... The boiling point of most DOT3 fluids is ~350F. I would say that we would need a heat shield regardless of placement. On the turbo cars; the factory went to the trouble of sealing the whole brake cylinder area in with a large heat shield.

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Re: Tilton Dual MC Setup

Post  gt1scca on Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:41 pm

944T factory heat shield...



May need to be custom made for clearance (original is fairly "bulky"...).
(There's that "C" word again...)

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Post  xschop on Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:55 pm

Don't laugh but the best heat shield material I've found is 2 layers of Coke/Beer can alloy sheet with 3-4 layers of aluminum foil in between. Don't ask me how I know this.
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Re: Tilton Dual MC Setup

Post  948 on Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:57 pm

I think a small shield, to protect the MC and lines, would be enough.

OT,
I made a heat shield for the driver side frame rail, to match the factory pass side... I used .062" thick dead soft aluminum and sandwiched a fibre glass cloth in between, riveted it together on the perimeter and then molded it to the contours of the frame. Once that was done I riveted the shield in place.
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Is anyone driving on this setup yet?

Post  Arthropraxis on Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:24 pm

If anyone is running this setup on the street, how does the pedal feel compared to stock? I am in the process of planning a build and this vs hydroboost is a hang up. I want to go manual steering and brakes, so the dual MC would be ideal. Any feedback would be helpful.
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Re: Tilton Dual MC Setup

Post  xschop on Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:46 pm

As far as dual MC set-up on the 944 goes.... member 948 can attest to that. I have been in a Cobra kit car with the dual MC's and that had me sold. I am actually cutting out the first prototype 944 housing to the Tilton Dual MC linkage this Saturday and should have it ready to fully mount by mid next week.
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Re: Tilton Dual MC Setup

Post  944ls on Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:45 pm

study

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Re: Tilton Dual MC Setup

Post  xschop on Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:37 pm

I welded up a steel prototype made from machined angle iron. The back bone is planed to give it an upwards angle just like factory MC. Just figuring a way to bolt it to the alloy firewall plate or if I want to make the firewall a steel plate as well then weld it.
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Re: Tilton Dual MC Setup

Post  944ls on Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:26 pm

OT; X I sent you a PM about your A arms. Now back to our scheduled programing

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Tilton Dual MC

Post  968gene on Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:08 pm

Any updates? Has anyone looked at Wilwood for solutions as well?
I am considering a move to an aftermarket pedal assemble and dual masters. Any comment/input?
Thanks.
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Re: Tilton Dual MC Setup

Post  gt1scca on Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:43 pm

Wilwood 60* Dual MC Balance bar...
http://www.wilwood.com/Start/Products/005-PedalAssemblies/005-BPA/balance/index.asp

The Tilton 72-650 is a 90* setup, but the 60* will work.
Just a matter of brand preference, price difference is marginal...

Also, Tilton has excellent tech support.
Haven't dealt w/ Wilwood.

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Re: Tilton Dual MC Setup

Post  xschop on Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:25 pm

Scratch the steel version. Way too time consuming. I have angle iron machined to be welded together if someone wants to do it themselves and weld to a steel plate. However this is the only one I will offer as a complete housing.It is 100% alloy construction and weighs only 2 lbs compared to the 8.5 lbs if made from steel. I still have to plane the firewall to bracket angle for the MC's to angle up just like the factory one does and take to my welder to TIG it up.....





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Looks Great

Post  968gene on Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:42 pm

Rob, More good stuff. Let me know when you've got a deliverable piece.
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Fat lady's warming up

Post  xschop on Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:28 pm

I got the billet housing planed at just the right angle so the dual MC's mimic the stock MC....



I left the right angles on the ends in case I or some other nut wants to put biasing valves on each MC...LOL



The design pays off...almost 3" away from the coil bodies....



And I'm more happy that the Hooker 2312 modded header clears by almost 2.5" as well....
Looks like there is crazy room for a homemade heat shield....



I am going to design the adjustable pushrod tomorrow that goes directly from the Porsche Clevis to the Tilton Heim joint. The only thing I may wind up doing is trimming 3/4" from the individual MC pushrods if there is not enough room for adjustment between clevis and heim...Other than that, it's all she wrote. Very Happy


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Sweet

Post  Arthropraxis on Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:44 pm

Beautiful work. That is going to look great in my car.
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reservoirs

Post  xschop on Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:17 pm

The Wilwood compacts come with 2 sizes of reservoirs and a remote system....piece of cake there.
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Firewall

Post  Arthropraxis on Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:57 pm

Any reinforcing of the firewall needed? It looks like the mounting plate would be enough. Not that I would have a clue.
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