HOW TO DO AN ADVANCED SEARCH.

Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:56 pm by Admin


For the benefit of 944Hybrids users there are two search functions available for you to use.
The purpose of this sticky is to explain the "Advanced Search" function because it is much more powerful and is the best choice when researching information.

When you log on to the site a list of options is shown in a line at the top of the page. One option is labelled "Search", use this option (NOT the search box lower down on the right).

After you click on the upper search option, a drop down box appears. At the bottom of this box is a radio button marked "Advanced …

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Convert 1986 to 1987+ Offset

Post  Bluemach1 on Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:09 pm

Is converting to the late offset, 1987+ as simple as swaping out the front control arms and the rear trailing arms?

What else do I need to know about this?

I figure that since the front will all be apart and the rear is going to be halfway disassembled anyway I should just upgrade now. I am already committing myself to rebuilding the suspension and torque tube.

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Re: Convert 1986 to 1987+ Offset

Post  gt1scca on Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:22 pm

Gotta have hubs and spindles.

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Re: Convert 1986 to 1987+ Offset

Post  ghostcloak on Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:45 pm

Hubs, spindles (Steering Knuckles), struts/coilovers, tie rods, and rims with tires. Make sure you've got rotors and calipers to stop the car too. Razz
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Re: Convert 1986 to 1987+ Offset

Post  Bluemach1 on Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:42 pm

Can I keep the struts that I have? I was going to send them out to Koni for rebuild. Hubs - I thought I would replace with early model (xschop suggestion). Spindles replace for sure.

What about the rear? Simply replace tailing arms?

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Re: Convert 1986 to 1987+ Offset

Post  Johnny Johnny on Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:56 am

As for the rear, I've heard others that went down this path and they also needed the torsion tube. Something about the angles of the trailing arm mounting points. I've asked the same question on Rennlist and Pelican and this seems to be the consensus.

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Re: Convert 1986 to 1987+ Offset

Post  Bluemach1 on Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:00 am

Anyone here done that job yet? Looks like a major pain with teh indexing..

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Re: Convert 1986 to 1987+ Offset

Post  Porch on Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:52 pm

I believe for the rear it's a matter of simply replacing the hubs and the rotors. I've been looking into going back to the '86 rears to fit my wheels (WB hollow spoke Turbo Twist II's).

In replacing the hubs you'll damage the bearings, and replacing them is another whole job in itself. I've decided to hold off on my swap for now because the bearings cost ~$70 each and then you have to buy new rotors, etc.

I've done the torsion bars on mine...they're a PITA, but it really transformed the car. If you do the torsion bars you'll also want to do bushings on the torsion bars. The poly-bronze bushings (another $300...) were highly recommended to me and that's what i went with. The delrin bushings supposedly squeak and bind. I got lucky did not have to do any re-indexing on mine (it landed just about right, and the eccentrics give you about 3/4" adjustability in either direction for leveling.
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Post  mjp427 on Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:28 pm

Porch wrote:I believe for the rear it's a matter of simply replacing the hubs and the rotors. I've been looking into going back to the '86 rears to fit my wheels (WB hollow spoke Turbo Twist II's).

In replacing the hubs you'll damage the bearings, and replacing them is another whole job in itself. I've decided to hold off on my swap for now because the bearings cost ~$70 each and then you have to buy new rotors, etc.

I've done the torsion bars on mine...they're a PITA, but it really transformed the car. If you do the torsion bars you'll also want to do bushings on the torsion bars. The poly-bronze bushings (another $300...) were highly recommended to me and that's what i went with. The delrin bushings supposedly squeak and bind. I got lucky did not have to do any re-indexing on mine (it landed just about right, and the eccentrics give you about 3/4" adjustability in either direction for leveling.

I have a 86 NA and have purchased 87 turbo brake calipers. I thought all I needed was the 87 turbo rotors and a spacer kit. Do I need to replace the hubs???? Please keep the info coming!

Thanks,

Matt

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Re: Convert 1986 to 1987+ Offset

Post  matthewb on Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:26 pm

Bluemach1 wrote:Can I keep the struts that I have? I was going to send them out to Koni for rebuild. Hubs - I thought I would replace with early model (xschop suggestion). Spindles replace for sure.

What about the rear? Simply replace tailing arms?

As was said above you do need to use the late struts with the late spindles. The bolt spacing on the spindle and bottom of the strut is different and need to be matched. There may also be an angle difference.

For the rear I think the easiest way is to swap the entire rear suspension rather than trying to change just some control arms or hubs. I don't think it is possible to do it with just hubs but I'm not positive on that. I am pretty sure the arms themselves are different. I am planning to swap the whole rear suspension on mine to the later style. I have already done the front and basically just did the entire front suspension too.

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