HOW TO DO AN ADVANCED SEARCH.
Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:56 pm by Admin
For the benefit of 944Hybrids users there are two search functions available for you to use.
The purpose of this sticky is to explain the "Advanced Search" function because it is much more powerful and is the best choice when researching information.
When you log on to the site a list of options is shown in a line at the top of the page. One option is labelled "Search", use this option (NOT the search box lower down on the right).
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Starter for Spec stage 1
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Starter for Spec stage 1
K, so I'm having a hard time figuring out what starter to use. I'm using a SPEC stage 1 clutch/flywheel combo from TPC. I've emailed them but haven't heard back yet.
I had a Camaro starter (11 teeth) installed and it worked OK until it snapped one of the ears off the starter housing (thankfully it didn't rip the boss of the block itself, which I hear is common).
I tried to source a Camaro starter with two long bolts, instead of the problematic one long/one short bolt scenario, but haven't been able to find.
Then, after doing some research, I put in a starter from a 2004 6.0 truck (w/11 teeth). This doesn't seem to be engaging fully (only 60%), and it does one rotation and then makes a loud bang and stops. It also chipped one of the flywheel teeth. I've redone all the wiring to 0 and 2 gauge, and using a new red top optima, so I don't think it is a power issue.
I did an advanced search on this site, and found that some people are using the MSD mini starter (5069??), but it seems to have mixed reviews, and I can't directly confirm that it is the appropriate and best starter for the TPC SPEC/stage 1 flywheel, and the MSD website doesn't spec the number of splines/teeth.
So what IS the correct starter for an LS1 SPEC/stage one flywheel/clutch combo from TPC?
Any info much appreciated- it's the last thing I need to sort out to get this thing on the road-
-Jason
I had a Camaro starter (11 teeth) installed and it worked OK until it snapped one of the ears off the starter housing (thankfully it didn't rip the boss of the block itself, which I hear is common).
I tried to source a Camaro starter with two long bolts, instead of the problematic one long/one short bolt scenario, but haven't been able to find.
Then, after doing some research, I put in a starter from a 2004 6.0 truck (w/11 teeth). This doesn't seem to be engaging fully (only 60%), and it does one rotation and then makes a loud bang and stops. It also chipped one of the flywheel teeth. I've redone all the wiring to 0 and 2 gauge, and using a new red top optima, so I don't think it is a power issue.
I did an advanced search on this site, and found that some people are using the MSD mini starter (5069??), but it seems to have mixed reviews, and I can't directly confirm that it is the appropriate and best starter for the TPC SPEC/stage 1 flywheel, and the MSD website doesn't spec the number of splines/teeth.
So what IS the correct starter for an LS1 SPEC/stage one flywheel/clutch combo from TPC?
Any info much appreciated- it's the last thing I need to sort out to get this thing on the road-
-Jason
Jasonscottw- Posts : 125
Join date : 2013-10-17
Re: Starter for Spec stage 1
Will this cheap(er) one from summit work? It has 2 long bolts:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-829200/overview/make/chevrolet
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-829200/overview/make/chevrolet
Jasonscottw- Posts : 125
Join date : 2013-10-17
Re: Starter for Spec stage 1
What bell housing are you using? The starter should match the bell housing. If i remember right i was using a C5 vette starter with the vette 2-piece bell housing. I was using the Spec stage 2 clutch package which is basically a C5 vette pressure plate, flywheel. The clutch disc is the same size as the C5 just with the Porsche hub on it.
Techno Duck- Posts : 447
Join date : 2010-12-01
Location : San Diego, CA
Re: Starter for Spec stage 1
I'm using the two piece corvette bell housing
Jasonscottw- Posts : 125
Join date : 2013-10-17
Re: Starter for Spec stage 1
With a Corvette Bell housing and a SPEC stage 1 clutch TPC recommended I use the Camaro starter with aftermarket part number NSA STR2606.
https://www.amazon.com/NSA-STR-2606-Starter-Chevrolet-Pontiac/dp/B000CHZN8U
https://www.amazon.com/NSA-STR-2606-Starter-Chevrolet-Pontiac/dp/B000CHZN8U
chrenan- Posts : 203
Join date : 2011-11-20
Re: Starter for Spec stage 1
Thanks-
I'm pretty sure that is the one I ordered first, and the one where the short bolt flange snapped off.
I can't tell in the pics if it has two long mounting bolts, or one short and one long?
So to be safe I ordered the one above from Summit, which seems to fit both C5 Corvettes and Camaros, AND has two long mounting bolts-
We will see . . .
I'm pretty sure that is the one I ordered first, and the one where the short bolt flange snapped off.
I can't tell in the pics if it has two long mounting bolts, or one short and one long?
So to be safe I ordered the one above from Summit, which seems to fit both C5 Corvettes and Camaros, AND has two long mounting bolts-
We will see . . .
Jasonscottw- Posts : 125
Join date : 2013-10-17
Re: Starter for Spec stage 1
Please report back, if it fits and works I'll use that one as well. What headers are you using?
chrenan- Posts : 203
Join date : 2011-11-20
Starter
Jasonscottw,
I used the starter you posted from summit. Link below:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-829200
working great and have probably 1K miles and one track day on it.
I used the starter you posted from summit. Link below:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-829200
working great and have probably 1K miles and one track day on it.
hickmaster2001- Posts : 57
Join date : 2015-09-11
Re: Starter for Spec stage 1
Hickmaster, thanks for the confirmation- I'm really hoping this will be the one that works. I'm so glad the boss on the engine block didn't snap off as well- which I hear has happened-
Chrenan- currently I'm using the exhaust manifolds from TPC, while I find the time to fabricate a set of long tube headers. But so far I'm super happy with the manifolds, so I'm not in a big rush, and might just leave them on for the long term
I will definitely post the outcome as soon as I receive/install-
Chrenan- currently I'm using the exhaust manifolds from TPC, while I find the time to fabricate a set of long tube headers. But so far I'm super happy with the manifolds, so I'm not in a big rush, and might just leave them on for the long term
I will definitely post the outcome as soon as I receive/install-
Jasonscottw- Posts : 125
Join date : 2013-10-17
Re: Starter for Spec stage 1
im using a stock truck starter on my 6L
matt889- Posts : 214
Join date : 2015-04-03
Age : 35
Location : canada Quebec
Re: Starter for Spec stage 1
Yeah, tried that- starter didn't engage fully in the flywheel so it was deforming the teeth on the flywheel a bit.
Are you using a 2 piece corvette bell housing?
Are you using a 2 piece corvette bell housing?
Jasonscottw- Posts : 125
Join date : 2013-10-17
Re: Starter for Spec stage 1
This worries me a bit now as I am also running my stock starter on my 4.8
yamamtx- Posts : 97
Join date : 2015-12-12
Re: Starter for Spec stage 1
I'm running the SPEC flywheel, 2 piece Vette bell housing and the truck starter with 2 long bolts. No issues.
Rich
Rich
Rich L.- Posts : 928
Join date : 2011-05-30
Location : Seattle
Re: Starter for Spec stage 1
jason: what engine are you running? some of the 6.0l truck engines (the ones originally running a 4l80e transmission) had a spacer between the crank and flexplate. ive often seen this stay stuck to the crank. if its still on there with the spec flywheel it may/may not be causing the issue. this would push the flywheel father back and cause the starter not to fully engage.
just a thought that popped into my mind.
just a thought that popped into my mind.
sharkey- Posts : 713
Join date : 2014-11-21
Age : 39
Location : Abbotsford BC
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