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1986 LS2 Conversion

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  FrostedFlakeJake on Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:07 am

Here's what Kent says:

"Jacob,

Thanks for the email. The 1/8 gap is not unusual. It will pull down fine onto the gasket. Be very careful if you want to use sealer, I know of one car that used to much and it got into the pan and clogged the pick-up tube.

Every pan is made on an engine bolted down. Welding will cause the metal to deform some.

Thanks

Kent @ TPC
682-220-9291"

So i'm going to let it ride for now I guess.

Some good news is i had my alternator tested during lunch and it's unbelievably in okay shape. I thought for sure after the coolant and power steering bath it took that it was a goner...

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  FrostedFlakeJake on Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:34 pm

Anyone out there remote mount the oil filter? There is a hilariously small amound of clearance between the long tubes and the filter block. No way i could run a cooler adapter. Hell if i keep the filter block i might have to shop around for block off plates to get one thin enough to clear the headers.

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  docwyte on Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:37 pm

Yes, I've got mine remote mounted, plumbed to my mocal 180F oil tstat that has my oil temp and oil pressure senders mounted to it.

Lmk if you wanna see pictures...

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  FrostedFlakeJake on Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:40 pm

docwyte wrote:Yes, I've got mine remote mounted, plumbed to my mocal 180F oil tstat that has my oil temp and oil pressure senders mounted to it.  

Lmk if you wanna see pictures...

Hey doc i was eying your setup in your thread. Where did you end up putting the filter?

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  docwyte on Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:50 pm

Not the best pic I had to kinda lay on the hood of my Cayenne to get it since it's parked under the 948 but it should give you an idea of where mine is...

You can see my brake ducting hose that I have to replace and the end of my splitter, but basically it's below and to the left of my alternator...

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  Rich L. on Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:07 pm

I put mine up front, outboard of the frame rail on the passenger side. This gave me an easy shot to it from the front mounted oil cooler. My Accusump is there too, where the washer fluid tank normally sits, and then it's a long hose back to squeeze between the block and header.
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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  Techno Duck on Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:34 pm

Are you running a/c? Mounted my filter housing on the a/c bracket. Its nice not having to soak the sway bar bushing with oil every time you change oil with that stupid upside down filter..  Cool . I have it plumbed in with a Mocal oil thermostat also. The thermo is mounted on the radiator support on the right side.

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  FrostedFlakeJake on Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:04 am

Mo' money mo'problems.

I have conflicting information as to if the engine is 24x reluctor or 58x reluctor wheel. Everything points to a 24x reluctor wheel except for the fact that I have a grey crank sensor. I guess I'll pull off the back cover and look at the cam gear to help me determine.

They guy I bought the engine from may have cobbled it together. Right now it looks like 58x engine with a 24x harness and computer.

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  FrostedFlakeJake on Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:05 pm

Son of a bee-hive. This engine is so cobbled up.

The engine is a 58x reluctor wheel engine. The wiring harness is for a 24x engine with a E40 (24x) ECM. But the alternator is also from a 24x TBSS??? Suspect

Ligenfelter makes a box to run a 58x engine off a 24x harness. I'm looking into that option but i definitely need some time to figure it out.

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  docwyte on Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:02 pm

Stepping into the middle of someone elses project can be frustrating.  You'll get it sorted out tho...

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  FrostedFlakeJake on Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:03 am

Yeah it just wasn't supposed to be a project. More things to spend money on Rolling Eyes

I'm just glad I looked into it before cutting up my harness. Now at least I have the ability to choose the ligenfelter box that lets the 24x computer talk to the 58x engine or selling my harness and getting a 58x harness.

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  docwyte on Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:08 am

These things are always projects. No matter what you think, there's always going to be something...

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  FrostedFlakeJake on Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:37 am

docwyte wrote:These things are always projects.  No matter what you think, there's always going to be something...

Yeah definitely figuring that out the hard way. But I'm learning alot for the next adventure...

Looks like the only think that would need to change if I went the new harness/ECM route would be the alternator; and even that you can probably modify to work with the harness. This may be cheaper than the ligenfelter box option. I don't want to waste too much time to save $50 though. If i can't find a good harness for cheap in a day or two i'll just order the box.

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  FrostedFlakeJake on Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:11 pm

Just figured out my BNIB MAF and O2 sensors are past the return date meaning unless I find the perfect harness (2008 trailblazer 5.3L) I would have to buy new ones as well...

I'm just going to order the ligenfelter box tomorrow. Also got my tax return so hello coil overs and maybe new sway bars?

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  lsporsche on Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:38 pm

Heres the gap mine had... Pretty significant, but it pulled down and hasn't leaked yet. Check the magnet on your drain plug as well, mine had significant buildup before I put any oil in it.

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  FrostedFlakeJake on Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:04 pm

Hey that's reassuring. Thanks for the drain plug info... i never would have thought to check.

Trying to figure out coil-overs. The KW V3's sounded like a sure buy till I read about Doc's experience. Now they're off the list. So many options... i started a thread on pelican asking for advice.

I'm a little concerned that the cam timing wheel might not match the reluctor wheel in my LS2... i trust nothing now Smile To try to save time pulling the timing cover off I'm going to see if i can identify the cam wheel with my inspection camera tonight. If you don't have an inspection camera my god go buy one. The amount of hours that thing has saved me in the 12 months i've had it....

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  docwyte on Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:11 pm

LOL, I'm famous! God, I had such a horrible experience with KW. Not only the product itself but also the way they handled the warranty.

On a 944/951 it's really hard to beat the Bilstein Escort Cup's without going to a really high dollar Moton type setup.

I sent mine back to Bilstein to have them rebuilt/revalved to the specific spring rate ranges I wanted. Cost me a grand total of $275.

Highly recommend them. Didn't F me around like KW did.

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  superman22x on Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:29 pm

I recently decided to switch from an E38 to an E67 harness. Rather than buying an entire harness, I just bought hte E67 Connectors and repinned them. A bit of a pain, but with the E38 and E67 pinouts, it wasn't too bad. E40 also uses the same type of Molex connectors. You could do the same... Or replace the crank...

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  Techno Duck on Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:44 pm

KW V3's on my car since '09 or so. No issues at all. I would buy them again.

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  FrostedFlakeJake on Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:08 am

superman22x wrote:I recently decided to switch from an E38 to an E67 harness.  Rather than buying an entire harness, I just bought hte E67 Connectors and repinned them.  A bit of a pain, but with the E38 and E67 pinouts, it wasn't too bad.  E40 also uses the same type of Molex connectors.  You could do the same...  Or replace the crank...  

Hmmmm that's a very interesting approach. Never even thought about that.

Well i'm really glad i decided to check the cam gear... the cam position sensor is broken. I took the bolt off and the sensor fell off the timing cover and i though "ha, that was easy" only to figure out that only the connector fell off the timing cover. The actual sensor body is stuck in the hole.

So... that's fun

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  FrostedFlakeJake on Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:11 am

KW V3's on my car since '09 or so. No issues at all. I would buy them again.

jon, did you put new springs on them and if so did they need to be revalved? Or are you running torsion bars?

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  superman22x on Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:37 am

Let me know if you need some help. AllData helps a ton...

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  Techno Duck on Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:39 pm

FrostedFlakeJake wrote:
KW V3's on my car since '09 or so. No issues at all. I would buy them again.

jon, did you put new springs on them and if so did they need to be revalved? Or are you running torsion bars?

The V3 are meant to be run with torsion bars out of the box. That is how my car is setup, full coil front and torsion bar with coils in the back. I was skeptical at how this setup would work essentially having two different springs in the back but i wouldn't change anything about it. Even the Escort Cup's were designed to run like this so it was good enough for the factory racers.

Ive mentioned it before but for a true dedicated track car the V3's are probably a little too soft, but for a dual purpose car that see's decent amount of street miles its the perfect setup i think.

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  FrostedFlakeJake on Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:21 am

I called paragon and lindsey yesterday.

After talking with Dave for ~20 minutes I think i'm settled on the Intrax RSA's. Dave seemed to really like them. I also like the fact that they are a complete package. No need to buy helper springs and spring perches or anything else. It's an inherent risk considering I haven't found a single review of them on 944s... but we'll see.

Also got the cam position sensor out yesterday... boy was that a pain. happy i didn't have to take the timing cover off though. That saved some time. Discovered that the cam timing gear matches the reluctor wheel and as a result I've ordered the magic ligenfelter box that lets my E40 communicate with the cam and reluctor wheels.

Also got a remote oil filter adapter.

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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion

Post  FrostedFlakeJake on Sun Mar 20, 2016 11:21 am

Playing with the harness this weekend. It's a constant state of mild confusion but I'm working through it Shocked

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