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1986 LS2 Conversion
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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
As far as I can tell, this should give the answer:
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With the alternator being a bit high and sitting out in front, there is some question. I think I'll post a new topic with this pic since this question comes up all the time.
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With the alternator being a bit high and sitting out in front, there is some question. I think I'll post a new topic with this pic since this question comes up all the time.
erioshi- Posts : 227
Join date : 2014-06-16
Location : A land of ice and snow .. mostly
Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
I decided to try to make my own alternator bracket for now. Metal is cheap and my boss seems to think my time is as well...
Alternator will go in essentially the same spot as the ICT product. Unfortunately I won't be able to tell anyone if it clears everything for a while.
Alternator will go in essentially the same spot as the ICT product. Unfortunately I won't be able to tell anyone if it clears everything for a while.
FrostedFlakeJake- Posts : 263
Join date : 2015-08-18
Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
Looks like i can make the TBSS injectors and rail work with a car intake. Wahoo for saving some $$$
Well that was false. TBSS injectors do not work with a car intake. Now i'm shopping for injectors!
Alternator bracket should hopefully be finished tomorrow-ish.
Ordered a bunch of parts from Kent, thanks kent!
Also got a turbo 5P trans coming from ebay
FrostedFlakeJake- Posts : 263
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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
Corvette LS2 injectors on the way!
FrostedFlakeJake- Posts : 263
Join date : 2015-08-18
Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
Well I got the alternator up there but now I don't have enough belt wrap on the crank. Should have seen that coming a mile away. There is no place to put a pulley/tensioner between the alt and the crank and no place between the power steering pump and the crank!
My only option is to move the power steering pump up. At which point I might as well put the alternator in the F-body location if i can...
Either way I gotta rid of my elephant trunk filler tube/reservoir for my steering pump. I wanted to just disconnect the filler tube but it looks like the filler tube and the reservoir are one piece of plastic. Shoot. I guess I'll take the plastic stuff off and do an external reservoir?
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My only option is to move the power steering pump up. At which point I might as well put the alternator in the F-body location if i can...
Either way I gotta rid of my elephant trunk filler tube/reservoir for my steering pump. I wanted to just disconnect the filler tube but it looks like the filler tube and the reservoir are one piece of plastic. Shoot. I guess I'll take the plastic stuff off and do an external reservoir?
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FrostedFlakeJake- Posts : 263
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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
So I ordered a F-body reservoir and made a little bracket yesterday. Not sure I like the angle that the reservoir is on so I might make another bracket today or maybe mod this one. I know aftermarket brackets are only $30 but the steel to make this one was only $3.....
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FrostedFlakeJake- Posts : 263
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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
Seems like i'm the only one here but I'll ask anyways....
Anyone have problems seating LS2 fuel injectors? I asked over on LS1 tech but I'm not getting any feedback... I have a LS2 Manifold and LS2 injectors so the problem must lie in user error.
The orange O-ring is not making it into the injector channel. It's like either the channel is too small or the little black piece of plastic next to the orange o-ring is too large. I have silicone grease applied to the o-ring but the o-ring never ends up against a wall. I tried installing them into the fuel rail to help me push a little harder but still no dice. Super confused.
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Anyone have problems seating LS2 fuel injectors? I asked over on LS1 tech but I'm not getting any feedback... I have a LS2 Manifold and LS2 injectors so the problem must lie in user error.
The orange O-ring is not making it into the injector channel. It's like either the channel is too small or the little black piece of plastic next to the orange o-ring is too large. I have silicone grease applied to the o-ring but the o-ring never ends up against a wall. I tried installing them into the fuel rail to help me push a little harder but still no dice. Super confused.
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FrostedFlakeJake- Posts : 263
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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
Following! I can't wait to see ur final accesories setup I have a truck engine and I'm in a delima to choose which options to use fbody setup is rare in Canada .
matt889- Posts : 214
Join date : 2015-04-03
Age : 35
Location : canada Quebec
Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
Following! I can't wait to see ur final accesories setup I have a truck engine and I'm in a delima to choose which options to use fbody setup is rare in Canada .
I'm essentially copying the ICT billet accessory just paying for it in time rather than $$$
As soon as my kit from Kent at TPC comes I can see what fits. There is some play with the alternator between being either closer to the passenger side or closer to the hood. From the photos I looked at online it looked like there was room in the engine compartment towards the passenger side, so I chose a location lower and more towards passenger side than the ICT kit.
We'll see if it paid off...
FrostedFlakeJake- Posts : 263
Join date : 2015-08-18
Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
I'm still watching, lol. No info on injectors, sorry. I'm very interested in seeing how your accessory solution works out.
erioshi- Posts : 227
Join date : 2014-06-16
Location : A land of ice and snow .. mostly
Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
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erioshi wrote:I'm still watching, lol. No info on injectors, sorry. I'm very interested in seeing how your accessory solution works out.
matt889- Posts : 214
Join date : 2015-04-03
Age : 35
Location : canada Quebec
Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
Well I got good news and bad news. The good news is I'm essentially finished with the accessory drive, the bad news is that if you were waiting to see if that ICT billet layout would work... i won't be able to tell you.
My problem with the ICT billet layout is that the tensioner uses a smooth pulley contacting the smooth part of the belt. Anyone who looks at the picture or link i posted can see that... unless you're like me and too impatient and rush into things. People talk about belts walking off ribbed tensioners with raised walls. I'm too paranoid to rely on that smooth pulley to hold the belt in line and there is no way to get a ribbed tensioner in there without doing something really creative.
Also, if i had known how easy it would be to copy a F-body like layout I would have done that to begin with. Alternator bolts into the right spot. Tensioner bolts into the right spot but the mounting surfaces need to be cut down to get the right depth. I already had my power steering bracket. All i had to do was make a bracket for the idler pulley.
Other than being easy, I know this layout will fit the 944 application which is part of the reason I did it.
All that remains is cutting down the mounting surface on the tensioner and it will be ready. Right now it sticks out too far. I measured 77.5" which is the stock 2005 GTO belt length (according to a thread on the internet, don't trust me). I ordered a belt and we'll see if it's the right length!
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My problem with the ICT billet layout is that the tensioner uses a smooth pulley contacting the smooth part of the belt. Anyone who looks at the picture or link i posted can see that... unless you're like me and too impatient and rush into things. People talk about belts walking off ribbed tensioners with raised walls. I'm too paranoid to rely on that smooth pulley to hold the belt in line and there is no way to get a ribbed tensioner in there without doing something really creative.
Also, if i had known how easy it would be to copy a F-body like layout I would have done that to begin with. Alternator bolts into the right spot. Tensioner bolts into the right spot but the mounting surfaces need to be cut down to get the right depth. I already had my power steering bracket. All i had to do was make a bracket for the idler pulley.
Other than being easy, I know this layout will fit the 944 application which is part of the reason I did it.
All that remains is cutting down the mounting surface on the tensioner and it will be ready. Right now it sticks out too far. I measured 77.5" which is the stock 2005 GTO belt length (according to a thread on the internet, don't trust me). I ordered a belt and we'll see if it's the right length!
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FrostedFlakeJake- Posts : 263
Join date : 2015-08-18
Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
Soyou ended up with a stock fbody idler,tensioner, alternator bracket ,PS bracket and f body balancer?
FrostedFlakeJake wrote:Well I got good news and bad news. The good news is I'm essentially finished with the accessory drive, the bad news is that if you were waiting to see if that ICT billet layout would work... i won't be able to tell you.
My problem with the ICT billet layout is that the tensioner uses a smooth pulley contacting the smooth part of the belt. Anyone who looks at the picture or link i posted can see that... unless you're like me and too impatient and rush into things. People talk about belts walking off ribbed tensioners with raised walls. I'm too paranoid to rely on that smooth pulley to hold the belt in line and there is no way to get a ribbed tensioner in there without doing something really creative.
Also, if i had known how easy it would be to copy a F-body like layout I would have done that to begin with. Alternator bolts into the right spot. Tensioner bolts into the right spot but the mounting surfaces need to be cut down to get the right depth. I already had my power steering bracket. All i had to do was make a bracket for the idler pulley.
Other than being easy, I know this layout will fit the 944 application which is part of the reason I did it.
All that remains is cutting down the mounting surface on the tensioner and it will be ready. Right now it sticks out too far. I measured 77.5" which is the stock 2005 GTO belt length (according to a thread on the internet, don't trust me). I ordered a belt and we'll see if it's the right length!
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matt889- Posts : 214
Join date : 2015-04-03
Age : 35
Location : canada Quebec
Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
so you ended up with a stock fbody idler,tensioner, alternator bracket ,PS bracket and f body balancer?
No, sorry if i wasn't clear.
I'm using all truck parts with the exception of a vette water pump. But everything except for the crank pulley required brackets/spacers to work. So the layout mimics a F-bdoy layout, but i'm using truck accessories with truck spacing. Does that make sense?
Hopefully I don't need that extra 1/2" or whatever it is of clearance you gain with the F-body accessories...
FrostedFlakeJake- Posts : 263
Join date : 2015-08-18
Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
Turbo trans, xschop's axles, and CV joints are all here!
Someone in LA talking about buying the 2.5L! I sure could use a few extra bills to spend
Someone in LA talking about buying the 2.5L! I sure could use a few extra bills to spend
FrostedFlakeJake- Posts : 263
Join date : 2015-08-18
Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
Haha holy cow I'm a wreck. If you haven't figured it out yet this project does not have my full attention.
I definitely could've kept the first iteration with the alternator hanging off the water pump and the power steering pump in the stock position. I thought this didn't have enough belt wrap but the stock TBSS engine has the exact same belt wrap on the crank.
Tried to put on my 77.5" belt and BOY is it tight. I don't understand how this tensioner works. It doesn't seem to move?? Makes putting this belt on extremely hard.
We'll see what happens over the weekend. Maybe i'll go back to my first set-up, maybe i'll buy a tensioner pulley that moves like this one [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
I definitely could've kept the first iteration with the alternator hanging off the water pump and the power steering pump in the stock position. I thought this didn't have enough belt wrap but the stock TBSS engine has the exact same belt wrap on the crank.
Tried to put on my 77.5" belt and BOY is it tight. I don't understand how this tensioner works. It doesn't seem to move?? Makes putting this belt on extremely hard.
We'll see what happens over the weekend. Maybe i'll go back to my first set-up, maybe i'll buy a tensioner pulley that moves like this one [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
FrostedFlakeJake- Posts : 263
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belt slack
Any idea how much drive belt slack i should have? Feel like I might have too much..
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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
Still waiting on the swap parts to show up...
No trans or engine in the car, sold them to a nice fellow from Traverse City. Have chop's axles and the empi CV's in the car.
My only worry about my drive belt setup is radiator fan clearance. I'm hearing that alot of people are really tight on the f-body accessories and my truck accessories are gonna give me 3/4" less clearance....
Shopping for a turbo rad now...
No trans or engine in the car, sold them to a nice fellow from Traverse City. Have chop's axles and the empi CV's in the car.
My only worry about my drive belt setup is radiator fan clearance. I'm hearing that alot of people are really tight on the f-body accessories and my truck accessories are gonna give me 3/4" less clearance....
Shopping for a turbo rad now...
FrostedFlakeJake- Posts : 263
Join date : 2015-08-18
Engine mounts
What am I supposed to do for engine mounts? I have the TPC brackets but is there any suggested engine mount (polyurethane) to connect the brackets to the crossmember?
the Kooks longtubes and majority of parts from Eric showed up. Waiting on a few stragglers
the Kooks longtubes and majority of parts from Eric showed up. Waiting on a few stragglers
FrostedFlakeJake- Posts : 263
Join date : 2015-08-18
Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
TPC engine mounts should come with brackets that bolt to engine block and tubular mounts that have one side bolt to sub-frame and other end that has poly bushings that bolt to bracket.
Sounds like they could be with some of your "stragglers".
Sounds like they could be with some of your "stragglers".
phlip- Posts : 67
Join date : 2012-08-11
Location : Dallas
Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
I got those! I didn't pay attention enough to realize there was a bushing where they connect to the part that bolts to the motor.
The two tubular parts that connect to the crossmember are two different lengths, do you remember if the longer one is driver or passenger side? My longer one is marked as driver side but there isn't enough clearance between the tubular piece and where the steering column connects for it to fit. The shorter mount fits there though. Wondering if they were mislabeled perhaps? Or is there some trick to getting the mount to fit?
The two tubular parts that connect to the crossmember are two different lengths, do you remember if the longer one is driver or passenger side? My longer one is marked as driver side but there isn't enough clearance between the tubular piece and where the steering column connects for it to fit. The shorter mount fits there though. Wondering if they were mislabeled perhaps? Or is there some trick to getting the mount to fit?
FrostedFlakeJake- Posts : 263
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Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
I forgot which one goes where, but maybe these pictures will help;
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Techno Duck- Posts : 447
Join date : 2010-12-01
Location : San Diego, CA
Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
The longer tubular mount is the drivers side.
I also used the Kooks headers on my most recent build. An attempt to install them after engine was in the bay failed. I had to install them before dropping in the engine.
Also, if using the quicktime BH you will have some clearance issues w/ the headers. At least i did. Nothing a grinder couldn't fix.
I also used the Kooks headers on my most recent build. An attempt to install them after engine was in the bay failed. I had to install them before dropping in the engine.
Also, if using the quicktime BH you will have some clearance issues w/ the headers. At least i did. Nothing a grinder couldn't fix.
Re: 1986 LS2 Conversion
Thanks guys I figured it out. Installed just the crossmember with the spacers to see if my steering column needed to be modified and while I was there I test fitted the mounts and figured out I was having the tubular members pointed the wrong way
Doesn't look like to me that the steering column shaft will need to be lengthened! Taking the tail cone housing to my machine guy tomorrow. The vice on my old man's mill is just short of opening wide enough to hold it.
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Doesn't look like to me that the steering column shaft will need to be lengthened! Taking the tail cone housing to my machine guy tomorrow. The vice on my old man's mill is just short of opening wide enough to hold it.
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