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V6,V8,and even a V12
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944Hybrids: 924/944/968 and 928 V8 Conversions :: 944 Conversions :: Turbo, V6, V8 & Other Conversions
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V6,V8,and even a V12
xschop Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:06 am
I'm helping Dinsdale install a Toyota 1GZ-V12 to a Vette TT/6 speed. I took it further and developed the adapter to install any of the Toyota V6,V8, V12 to the 944/951 as well as the 928 TT/trans....
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Re: V6,V8,and even a V12
xschop Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:10 am
The A340 Toyota automatic transmission Bellhousing that bolts on-off. Only a V6 hasn't been swapped in yet, but I know it uses the same clutch as the 1uz V8.
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Re: V6,V8,and even a V12
SGoodall Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:39 am
I think the bolt pattern of the transmission to the bellhousing is the same as that to the automatic transmission of the volvo bellhousing I'm using, would be possible to see a drawing of your adaptor to see would be suitable for me?
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Re: V6,V8,and even a V12
xschop Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:20 am
It is as I just confirmed with Brandon from 1uz swap.
my adater puts the TT face .010" aft of the BH/trans face. What depth is Volvo BH you have and pilot bearing face to block face distance. I would like a 5 cyl Volvo engine in a 944 as a DD.
my adater puts the TT face .010" aft of the BH/trans face. What depth is Volvo BH you have and pilot bearing face to block face distance. I would like a 5 cyl Volvo engine in a 944 as a DD.
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Re: V6,V8,and even a V12
xschop Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:10 pm
Looks like the Volvo 2.9L Inline 6 from an S90 or 960 will bolt right up as it also uses the A34x trans
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Re: V6,V8,and even a V12
SGoodall Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:54 pm
The Volvo bellhousing from a 960 I6 is 140mm and the transmission side the spigot bearing in inline with the block face. With the 944 input shaft protruding 140mm this means need about 10mm of dish to offset the torque tube flange face into the bellhousing.
My current plan as I'm limited to using a lathe and pillar drill is to cut the flange off the 944 torque tube and weld on a new plate machined and drilled to match the the bellhousing and torque tube diameter but a bolt on solution would be much neater.
My current plan as I'm limited to using a lathe and pillar drill is to cut the flange off the 944 torque tube and weld on a new plate machined and drilled to match the the bellhousing and torque tube diameter but a bolt on solution would be much neater.
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Re: V6,V8,and even a V12
xschop Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:51 pm
If your measurements are correct, then 135 to 140mm depth BH is ideal as the 944 TT shaft pilot bearing land starts right at 137mm....
Check out the tech drawing on pg. 2 of the 1uz thread. I've confirmed those dims on 4 different 944 torque tubes.
Check out the tech drawing on pg. 2 of the 1uz thread. I've confirmed those dims on 4 different 944 torque tubes.
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Re: V6,V8,and even a V12
SGoodall Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:33 am
Yea looking the drawing seems about what I was thinking just needs more dish, I have done solidworks models but I keep coming back to thinking the dish too much and be easier to just use a simple steel plate, also alloy too dear for me to mess up now I've stopped working in aerospace and cant get it free 
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Re: V6,V8,and even a V12
xschop Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:49 pm
Maybe you misunderstood. For your setup, the way you described the BH depth and Pilot bearing face to crank face, it's just about perfect. You can always get a thicker pilot bearing just as has been done on the LS swap.
Just checked and the 2.9 Volvo engine uses the same pilot bearing as the 944
Just checked and the 2.9 Volvo engine uses the same pilot bearing as the 944
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Re: V6,V8,and even a V12
SGoodall Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:45 pm
Do you mean just turn up a bronze bush to extend outt from the crank to reach the 944 input, would not be likely to fall out?
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Re: V6,V8,and even a V12
xschop Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:53 pm
No, The factory pilot bearing is 11mm, there are 14mm and 16mm thick bearings off-the-shelf, but you won't need them if your BH is 140mm and the pilot bearing face is flush with block as you described.
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Re: V6,V8,and even a V12
SGoodall Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:21 pm
The side of the pilot bearing closest the gearbox end is flush with the block but the engine side is below the block face
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Re: V6,V8,and even a V12
xschop Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:32 pm
Exactly, and by 11mm as it is the same pilot bearing as the 944 (15x35x11). If the back side of your clutch disc allows, you could use a 15x35x14 pilot bearing and the shaft tip bearing land would be perfectly inserted.
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Re: V6,V8,and even a V12
SGoodall Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:23 pm
Ah yes, I understand now, if where to use a adaptor as per your design that would work ok
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Re: V6,V8,and even a V12
SGoodall Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:57 pm
Spent the evening doing a couple solidworks drawings, decided go with a design similar to yours rather than the steel idea. I've drawn it to remove the 12 degree of cant on the engine and to use a GM (Saab) concentric slave.
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Weight is coming out at 6lb so not even hevay
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Weight is coming out at 6lb so not even hevay
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