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Radiators (carry over from PH post)
There was a thread started on PH about radiators, and "applebit" said he had ordered a Griffin 1-26201-X from Summit. He hasn't posted his experience with it yet, and I don't see his userID here on this board.
Anyone have any opinions on it?
Anyone have any opinions on it?
Johnny Johnny- Posts : 164
Join date : 2009-06-09
Age : 53
Location : Oakville, Ontario Canada
Re: Radiators (carry over from PH post)
Yes, inquiring minds want to know!
My car runs very hot with the stock turbo 951 rad!
My car runs very hot with the stock turbo 951 rad!
Re: Radiators (carry over from PH post)
I am going to help Vorsche944 put his car together, Although we are going to start in 2 weeks it will be a few before we will know that his Summit purchased radiator works for the stock LS1 conversion. Hopefully he will chime in on the part number he purchased. We will let you know how well it works. Just have to be patient.
Re: Radiators (carry over from PH post)
Ive got another one on radiators, you guys think a 19x26 is too big to fit? I have a buddy willing to part with one.. its a 3 core aluminum chevy style Griffin... thoughts?
Tetzuoe- Posts : 178
Join date : 2009-06-12
Age : 40
Location : Falls Church, VA
Re: Radiators (carry over from PH post)
Here is the Radiator that we are going to test with my LS1 implementation. We will update you with the results once we get it custom mounted and tested.
Price is $160.00
Brand: Summit
Product Line: Summit Aluminum Racing Radiators
Part Type: Radiators
Part Number: SUM-380645
Radiator Style: Crossflow
Overall Width (in): 23.875 in.
Overall Height (in): 16.000 in.
Overall Thickness (in): 1.750 in.
Row Quantity: Single-row
Radiator Finish: Natural
Radiator Material: Aluminum
Transmission Cooler: No
Inlet Location: Upper driver side
Inlet Size: 1 3/4 in.
Outlet Location: Lower passenger side
Outlet Size: 1 3/4 in.
Core Height (in): 16.000 in.
Core Width (in): 20.750 in.
Core surface are: 332.
As compared with the other radiators in the matrix below. IT should perform pretty well.
Model Overall Tanks Core Rows Ares
951 23.75 x 14 2.00 19.75 x 14 1.00 276.50 Al/Plastic
RH 23.75 x 16 2.75 18.25 x 15 2.00 292.00 Alum
HMR 23.75 x 14 2.75 18.75 x 14 2.00 255.50 Alum
82-86 Camaro 25.5 x 16.5 2.50 20.5 x 16.5 1.00 338.25 AL/Plastic
Summit SUM-380645 23.875 x 16 1.75 20.75 x 16 1.00 332.00 Alum
Price is $160.00
Brand: Summit
Product Line: Summit Aluminum Racing Radiators
Part Type: Radiators
Part Number: SUM-380645
Radiator Style: Crossflow
Overall Width (in): 23.875 in.
Overall Height (in): 16.000 in.
Overall Thickness (in): 1.750 in.
Row Quantity: Single-row
Radiator Finish: Natural
Radiator Material: Aluminum
Transmission Cooler: No
Inlet Location: Upper driver side
Inlet Size: 1 3/4 in.
Outlet Location: Lower passenger side
Outlet Size: 1 3/4 in.
Core Height (in): 16.000 in.
Core Width (in): 20.750 in.
Core surface are: 332.
As compared with the other radiators in the matrix below. IT should perform pretty well.
Model Overall Tanks Core Rows Ares
951 23.75 x 14 2.00 19.75 x 14 1.00 276.50 Al/Plastic
RH 23.75 x 16 2.75 18.25 x 15 2.00 292.00 Alum
HMR 23.75 x 14 2.75 18.75 x 14 2.00 255.50 Alum
82-86 Camaro 25.5 x 16.5 2.50 20.5 x 16.5 1.00 338.25 AL/Plastic
Summit SUM-380645 23.875 x 16 1.75 20.75 x 16 1.00 332.00 Alum
Re: Radiators (carry over from PH post)
Whats your plan for the rad's filler neck/cap? Are you going to retain the 944 coolant reservoir? Alot of rad shops around here would cut that out and weld a plate over it for less than 30 bucks! I hope this solution works...would help alot of people!
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Re: Radiators (carry over from PH post)
Just for some additional info, Stealth Conversions uses an 82-85 Camaro radiator on their 240Z conversions (338 sq. in.) even with modified engines. They claim that they have never had any cooling issues with it.
tetzuoe, the problem you may have with the 3 row radiator is getting enough air flow through it. If you cannot, the radiator will not cool as well as any of the others. The 3 cores will increase the coolant flow but low air flow will kill the cooling effect. If you try that radiator i would suggest you only use the Taurus fan. If you can get enough air flow that radiator will be oversized ---not a bad thing if you keep the a/c.
tetzuoe, the problem you may have with the 3 row radiator is getting enough air flow through it. If you cannot, the radiator will not cool as well as any of the others. The 3 cores will increase the coolant flow but low air flow will kill the cooling effect. If you try that radiator i would suggest you only use the Taurus fan. If you can get enough air flow that radiator will be oversized ---not a bad thing if you keep the a/c.
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Age : 66
Location : Tucson, AZ
Re: Radiators (carry over from PH post)
I agree with what v8carreragts said, I believe we had a pretty lengthy topic post on PH about this.
What he said about the air flow was the concern, I personally have the Ford Taurus fan on my car.
What he said about the air flow was the concern, I personally have the Ford Taurus fan on my car.
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All you never knew about how to be cool...
or this...
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All you never knew about how to be cool...
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Age : 55
Location : Belton, SC
Re: Radiators (carry over from PH post)
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All you never knew about how to be cool...
Thanks for posting that........again
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No prob...Check out the MC thread...
It seems to keep getting "missed"...Obviously it didn't stick the first (or second) time.
gt1scca- Posts : 795
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Re: Radiators (carry over from PH post)
right, with that rad Id be likley to put some kind of good fan in there, Ill have the dual speed 2 fan setup and possibly forgo the tauraus fan for something stronger.
No AC in the setup, though I think ill keep that one open for expansion If I feel so inclined.
I was mostly just concerned about the fitment.
No AC in the setup, though I think ill keep that one open for expansion If I feel so inclined.
I was mostly just concerned about the fitment.
Tetzuoe- Posts : 178
Join date : 2009-06-12
Age : 40
Location : Falls Church, VA
Re: Radiators (carry over from PH post)
couples things for me...
1 the ford taurus/ SHO fan is more fan than can cover the stock size rad and the CFM is plenty!
If you go with one of the aftermarket rads like from summit, it has a filler cap on the top side. ZDoes everyone cut out the stock top area? this is where the stock hood latch is.
Also seems like the rad will ether sit lower or higher so what have some of you other guys done related to rad support/ frame? Post some pictures!
Mine sits lower with stock top intact. I have crude frome lower support that I want to redesign.
Plus a single pass less than 2" core I believe is not enough? because the overall sixe is very limited due to the Porsche frames, you need something thicker anyway? When talking "cooling capacity" you are talking total core square area. length x width x thickness.
Also slightly off topic, Im interested in what others have done related to External Oil coolers.
1 the ford taurus/ SHO fan is more fan than can cover the stock size rad and the CFM is plenty!
If you go with one of the aftermarket rads like from summit, it has a filler cap on the top side. ZDoes everyone cut out the stock top area? this is where the stock hood latch is.
Also seems like the rad will ether sit lower or higher so what have some of you other guys done related to rad support/ frame? Post some pictures!
Mine sits lower with stock top intact. I have crude frome lower support that I want to redesign.
Plus a single pass less than 2" core I believe is not enough? because the overall sixe is very limited due to the Porsche frames, you need something thicker anyway? When talking "cooling capacity" you are talking total core square area. length x width x thickness.
Also slightly off topic, Im interested in what others have done related to External Oil coolers.
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Here's what I did. I haven't mounted the condensers yet but they will pull air separately from the radiator and I plan on mounting the oil cooler just like it is mounted on a Carrera GT. I may have a picture of the mounting somewhere.
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Here's what I did. I haven't mounted the condensers yet but they will pull air separately from the radiator and I plan on mounting the oil cooler just like it is mounted on a Carrera GT. I may have a picture of the mounting somewhere.
v8carreragts- Posts : 332
Join date : 2009-06-08
Age : 66
Location : Tucson, AZ
Re: Radiators (carry over from PH post)
Nice and simple. I like it!
THANKS mine is a hacked up flimsy angle sheet metal.
THANKS mine is a hacked up flimsy angle sheet metal.
Re: Radiators (carry over from PH post)
the condenser picture looks like it has some kind of frame in from of the rad? Did you make that too?
As you know the other issue is making sure all the are goes thru the rad not around it!
As you know the other issue is making sure all the are goes thru the rad not around it!
Re: Radiators (carry over from PH post)
The Radiator is sealed to the sides and top. It will be also ducted to the GTS bumper. The condensers will be placed on each side behind and below the driving lights, also ducted to the GTS bumper and they will exhaust into the wheel wells.
v8carreragts- Posts : 332
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Location : Tucson, AZ
Re: Radiators (carry over from PH post)
Ok, I finally got the radiator in the Vorsche 944 car. I had to have the Radiator cap removed and filled in. I made custom mounts that did not lower the radiator in the car at all.
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