HOW TO DO AN ADVANCED SEARCH.

Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:56 pm by Admin


For the benefit of 944Hybrids users there are two search functions available for you to use.
The purpose of this sticky is to explain the "Advanced Search" function because it is much more powerful and is the best choice when researching information.

When you log on to the site a list of options is shown in a line at the top of the page. One option is labelled "Search", use this option (NOT the search box lower down on the right).

After you click on the upper search option, a drop down box appears. At the bottom of this box is a radio button marked "Advanced …

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Post  endrnet on Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:38 am

I've been reading about the master cyl / heat / clearance issue and starting wondering if a bellcrank of some kind could be used to just move it. Turns out somebody has thought of this before and actually built it (not for the 944, but the concept is interesting).

http://www.performanceforum.com/wesvann/914a/dual/dual.html
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Post  Tetzuoe on Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:42 am

very cool, where would the MCs go though? there arent many options without doing something completely insane
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Post  endrnet on Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:02 am

My stock MC looks like a 10deg angle up, there might be room just behind the drivers front shock tower. We'll see as I get this thing apart. Right now it's a bit messy in there yet, I've only just begun disassembly in the engine bay.
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Post  948 on Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:44 am

Nice article.
The older 911's had the booster and MC running left to right, using a bell crank to transfer motion from the pedal.
Gt1scca, I and Xschop discussed this idea before Xschop made way with his set-up.........we didn't feel that there was enough clearance to the side.
Having said that, If you discover otherwise please let us know.
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Re: Master Cyl Relocation

Post  Tetzuoe on Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:11 am

heh, is there enough room to flip the assembly 180 and put it up in the rain tray? seems a bit too elaborate though.
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Post  xschop on Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:03 am

The USPS where I work is slower than well, uh, USPS anywhere else lol!
I expect the modded 2312 header to arrive anytime soon since it's coming back from Canada (Thanks J.J.)
When it gets here, I can put the final design on the Dual MC bracket. Even before the Dual MC was discussed with 948 and GT1scca, I had already thought it would be trick to run a heim joint push-rod extension in an extention tube all the way up across the plane of the driver's head and mount the MC/Dual MC off a bracket near the area where the old truck alternator spot was ( I'm moving it to passenger's side).

USPS= Usually Slow Probably Stolen scratch
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Post  Tetzuoe on Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:31 am

lol nice, itd be easier to just run a push rod behind the driver at that point, back seat master cylinder! lol.
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Post  ffmedic on Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:09 pm

Tetzuoe wrote:very cool, where would the MCs go though? there arent many options without doing something completely insane

Their is a huge amount of room in the fenders, if I was going to do this . That's where I would mount the MC.

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Post  stuart f. wright on Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:46 pm

go to my gallery and look where i mounted mine i put it on the floorboard i still have plenty of room ill post a pic once i complete the car .ive even toyed with the idea of mounting under seat .where i have it mounted now works fine .with the cover on it it just has a small rise to side of door .my car is an automatic but with a dual master u could add clutch pedal to.i have a manual trans 944 that i will convert when finished with this one.my current 944 has logged over 20000 miles with my first 350 then i pulled it to put in a roller cam and improve on other parts of the car.
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Post  Porch on Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:00 pm

I could see heat being an issue on a turbo car, but why are we worried about it on a LT/LS car? I've run the hell out of mine and never once had a hint of boiling fluid...
I run the Wilwood racing fluid but i think it's way overkill.

I dunno. Neat idea, but too many points of failure, and i don't really see the need!
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Post  gt1scca on Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:09 pm

stuart f. wright wrote:go to my gallery and look where i mounted mine...
Where do you put your left foot?



Window?

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Post  msmoorenburg on Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:39 am

Aww just set it up like the old Sunbeam Alpine did Shocked



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Re: Master Cyl Relocation

Post  stuart f. wright on Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:10 pm

gt1scca wrote:
stuart f. wright wrote:go to my gallery and look where i mounted mine...
Where do you put your left foot?



Window?
plenty of room 4 my left foot .wasnt lotta room left when i installed tall valve covers to clear the roller rockers.i wear a size 13 shoe by the way.the box tgat the master cylinder sits in is about even with bottom of rocker.i could have mounted it under drivers seat.lol
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Post  stuart f. wright on Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:18 pm

ive even thought about mounting it backwards under the dashboard with a resivor under the hood.its atight fit no matter what u do. boiling fluid has never been my concern.my combonation works and is functional.and it didnt cost a fortune .and i did it myself
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Post  stuart f. wright on Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:32 pm

by the way its not an ls motor nor is it a lt-1.it is a conventonal carbed 350 out of my buddies sprint car with over 500 hp .i have another 944 that im going to convert to ls3 in the future.
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Post  stuart f. wright on Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:58 pm

gt1scca wrote:
stuart f. wright wrote:go to my gallery and look where i mounted mine...
Where do you put your left foot?



Window?
on the floor where it belongs .i wouldnt have put the master cylinder down on floor if there wasnt any room for both of my big feet.when cover piece installed and carpet over it you dont really notice.i should have car back together by march and i will post some more pics
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Post  stuart f. wright on Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:01 am

stuart f. wright wrote:by the way its not an ls motor nor is it a lt-1.it is a conventonal carbed 350 out of my buddies sprint car with over 500 hp .i have another 944 that im going to convert to ls3 in the future.
dont you guys beat me up to much ive seen some very nice conversions on this site.if id known what i know now alot of which im learning from the gurus on this site my converson would have been easyer.ive been working on this car 8 years n when im finished im gonna build my black 944 turbo with my knowledge that im learning from you .and what ive learned from my first build.


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Post  gt1scca on Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:17 am

No offense intended...

I am quite "The Joker".
Just raggin' ya a bit...

stuart f. wright wrote:my combination works and is functional / and it didn't cost a fortune / and i did it myself...
That sums up the entire site, Stuart.

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Post  stuart f. wright on Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:26 am

gt1scca wrote:No offense intended...

I am quite "The Joker".
Just raggin' ya a bit...

stuart f. wright wrote:my combination works and is functional / and it didn't cost a fortune / and i did it myself...
That sums up the entire site, Stuart.

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no offense taken some very brillant minds on here im learning alot thank you
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Post  xschop on Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:57 am

I'm getting ready to order a few things from summit and stumbled across this....
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G3905/?image=large

Has anyone had experience with this one? It it less expensive than the Wilwood one and would qualify me for free shipping if I throw it in the bag. Very Happy
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Post  stuart f. wright on Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:02 am

xschop wrote:I'm getting ready to order a few things from summit and stumbled across this....
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G3905/?image=large

Has anyone had experience with this one? It it less expensive than the Wilwood one and would qualify me for free shipping if I throw it in the bag. Very Happy


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Post  gt1scca on Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:26 am

Looks identical to the Wilwood...
Without the name.

Wilwood version...
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/WIL-260-8419/?image=large

Same specs.
Yeah, I'd buy it.

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