HOW TO DO AN ADVANCED SEARCH.
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For the benefit of 944Hybrids users there are two search functions available for you to use.
The purpose of this sticky is to explain the "Advanced Search" function because it is much more powerful and is the best choice when researching information.
When you log on to the site a list of options is shown in a line at the top of the page. One option is labelled "Search", use this option (NOT the search box lower down on the right).
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Manual rack issues
Hey guys,
I decided to get to this rack swap finally since my car is running again.
I have a 1986 944 turbo and am trying to install a manual rack in the car. Upon inspection of the manual rack I noticed that one side has a internal threaded outer tie rod and the other sided uses the original external threaded outer tie rod.
Also The rubber bushings that are used along with the clamps to hold the rack to the crossmember I am having an issue with. The one closest to the steering gear fits properly but the one on the end of the rack towards the passenger side is too big to grab the smaller diameter rack.
If there is any thing you can do to point me in the right direction I would be most appreciative.
I thought it would be a quick in out. Now my car is stuck on the stands until I figure this situation out.
I decided to get to this rack swap finally since my car is running again.
I have a 1986 944 turbo and am trying to install a manual rack in the car. Upon inspection of the manual rack I noticed that one side has a internal threaded outer tie rod and the other sided uses the original external threaded outer tie rod.
Also The rubber bushings that are used along with the clamps to hold the rack to the crossmember I am having an issue with. The one closest to the steering gear fits properly but the one on the end of the rack towards the passenger side is too big to grab the smaller diameter rack.
If there is any thing you can do to point me in the right direction I would be most appreciative.
I thought it would be a quick in out. Now my car is stuck on the stands until I figure this situation out.
cfgioja- Posts : 804
Join date : 2009-11-22
Age : 39
Location : Clarksville, AR
Re: Manual rack issues
Bushing caps are the same, bushings are not. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Call Ian at 944online, he will be able to help you out. Sounds like someone used an OE tie rod on one side and an aftermarket one like the unit that Ian sells which utilizes the power steering rod end.
Ian know just about as much about 944s as anyone.
Ian know just about as much about 944s as anyone.
marc a- Posts : 170
Join date : 2009-07-18
Location : Herndon, Va
Re: Manual rack issues
Bummer you're missing parts. I'll echo what Marc said. I used the VW tie rods from Moog that adapt to the late offset ends, both were the same attachment style to the rack. The bushings differ manual to power racks, but the aluminum bushing caps are the same.
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Rich L.- Posts : 928
Join date : 2011-05-30
Location : Seattle
Re: Manual rack issues
Hey Collin, Looks like Someone swapped in a manual rack and didn't change the rubbers (The Power rack rubber bushing on the pass. side is larger Dia.) I found this out when I modded a set of manual polyurethane bushings to fit the Power rack.
xschop- Posts : 2711
Join date : 2009-06-09
Location : OKC
Re: Manual rack issues
I have a set of early offset tie rods for a manual rack with female ends that are yours for shipping cost if you want them. I didn't feel any play in the joints when they were removed from the rack. There are tie rod ends too, but they need boots.
Arthropraxis- Posts : 1103
Join date : 2009-09-02
Re: Manual rack issues
Prothane part # 22-701 is a perfect fit for the Manual rack bushings.
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xschop- Posts : 2711
Join date : 2009-06-09
Location : OKC
Re: Manual rack issues
I saw some blue ones but red would go with the car. where did you find those bushings at robert.
cfgioja- Posts : 804
Join date : 2009-11-22
Age : 39
Location : Clarksville, AR
Re: Manual rack issues
Not correct picture, but these VW Bushings fit the 944 manual racks....
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xschop- Posts : 2711
Join date : 2009-06-09
Location : OKC
Re: Manual rack issues
Wonder if any of the Jetta manual racks fit the 944 i.e. the '91 . . . .
marc a- Posts : 170
Join date : 2009-07-18
Location : Herndon, Va
Re: Manual rack issues
Nope, been there and checked that before.marc a wrote:Wonder if any of the Jetta manual racks fit the 944 i.e. the '91 . . . .
Though the 944 rack was definitely based on the MK1 VW rack the pinion is housed on the flip side.
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Join date : 2009-06-09
Age : 108
Location : East PA
Re: Manual rack issues
Jetta is rear steer. 944 is front steer. Many moons ago someone brought an early Tercel manual rack to me and I made a conversion steering shaft for it (I don't remember the spline ct). I just recall him saying that it was a ratio between the 944 manual and 944 power rack. The ends fit the 944 inner power tie rods too.
xschop- Posts : 2711
Join date : 2009-06-09
Location : OKC
Re: Manual rack issues
I just put the prothane units on my car (manual rack). Tight fit, but they go on with some effort. I got mine from Amazon for cheap (less than $20 shipped).
Lemming- Posts : 855
Join date : 2011-05-30
Location : B'ham
Re: Manual rack issues
xschop wrote:Jetta is rear steer. 944 is front steer. Many moons ago someone brought an early Tercel manual rack to me and I made a conversion steering shaft for it (I don't remember the spline ct). I just recall him saying that it was a ratio between the 944 manual and 944 power rack. The ends fit the 944 inner power tie rods too.
Maybe with the borgeson part selection this could be an alternative.
marc a- Posts : 170
Join date : 2009-07-18
Location : Herndon, Va
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