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Post  Michael B. on Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:50 pm

Hey gents.

My car is s t i l l kicking along without fail - all 550 HP, and driven like its intended to be.

My next bigger event with the car is this one:

http://www.spectre341challenge.com/

Root for me. I would luv to think I could go for the record but I will be satisfied with a strong finish in the top of the roster. I also would be satisfied with just not falling off into the abyss as this is no guardrail cliff stuff here.

Anyhow, today I upgraded to a SPEC Stage 2+ clutch per this site (old one was fine though really),
I also obtained a Mustang GT hydro-boost brake assist, and I got in a manual steering rack that I am toying with too. The car is just too fun not to play with.



Keep an eye out here as I will update my progress on the car as the date approaches. I will probably be adding some more power, reducing the weight a bit more, painting some panels, finishing the roll cage and posting some test videos. It could be fun. What a Face
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Post  Arthropraxis on Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:57 pm

That looks awesome, make sure you have in car video. Good luck with the race.
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Post  acorad on Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:19 pm

Excellent!
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Post  Michael B. on Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:03 pm

Hey thanks you two. I will need the luck too.

I was going to work on the car today but a mound of paperwork kept me from it. I am slipping the trans back in (had it out for the clutch obviously) next and while I had it out I took off the short shift kit. I never warmed up to the clunky short-shift feel.

Maybe I will clean up some of the mass confusion under the hood...



This is a real work horse so I never really got to the showcar aesthetics once I put the blower on.
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Post  skywalker01 on Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:56 pm

Man! I'd love to do something like that Spectre Rally! Give 'em hell!!
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Post  kevin924kevin on Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:08 pm

Good luck,show them what these cars can do. Question, what kind of blower/supercharger is that, that would be a nice addition to a LS3 with a stage two cam. How much HP added with that unit.very interesting!
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Post  Michael B. on Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:38 pm

kevin924kevin wrote:Question, what kind of blower/supercharger is that, that would be a nice addition to a LS3 with a stage two cam. How much HP added with that unit.very interesting!

Oh yes, its an Eaton style by Manguson (Magnacharger). Same style that would have been on say a factory AMG Benz, or ZR1 Vette, Roush Mustang etc. I had a choice way back when I installed it, go hair drier style (Pro-Charger) or top mount twin screw. Obviously you can see what I chose. They are very efficient in comparison. Look for up to 150HP gained by bolting it on. Relatively low boost too (7psi). I actually pulled the power back as it was just blowing the tires off in any gear (295/18 soft compound) with this light chassis set up. It still spins 'em at will.

At a race like the Spectre at its high altitude you need forced induction. So this set up is well suited.


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Post  Rich L. on Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:03 am

That's a sick machine! I love the track vid passing the 997 turbo and v8 M3. Nicely done! Good luck at the Spectre.

Rich
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Post  pormgb on Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:38 pm

Is that MP112 Intercooled? Is it for a Corvette or GTO?

I had and opportunity to pick up a non intercooled version but I was encouraged not to.
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Post  Michael B. on Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:38 pm

pormgb wrote:Is that MP112 Intercooled? Is it for a Corvette or GTO?

I had and opportunity to pick up a non intercooled version but I was encouraged not to.

Yup, Intercooled. Water to air. Its own electric water-pump, and radiator.

It is neither for a Vette or GTO, its custom for my requirements. More of a "hot rod" system.

Don't fear a non-intercooled version by the way. Most that are not educated on the matter encourage people to steer clear but in reality the heat produced from the system will nearly self regulate the output. As the temperature rises the system loses efficiency and will in turn lose the boost level. I had experimented with a similar system on a horizontal 6 911 and found that it was only detrimental to lap times, not reliability.

I chose intercooled on this one knowing I could be lapping for hours at a time. The coolant never gets hot. You could just pour it into your hands even after lots of hot laps.

I got the transmission back in today - perhaps I will put the 'ol GKN Racing axles back on tomorrow. I got all new Stage 8 locking hardware for 'em as EVERY bolt was found only hand tight upon removal! No
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Post  Lemming on Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:24 pm

Cool, would love to do some open road racings, always thought the silver state classis would be a blast.
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Post  kevin924kevin on Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:43 pm

Thats an awsome addition to the motor, it looks to sit under the hood with no issue. Where did you purchace that unit from? Thanks. That vid rocks
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Post  pormgb on Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:04 pm

Michael B. wrote:
pormgb wrote:Is that MP112 Intercooled? Is it for a Corvette or GTO?

I had and opportunity to pick up a non intercooled version but I was encouraged not to.

Yup, Intercooled. Water to air. Its own electric water-pump, and radiator.

It is neither for a Vette or GTO, its custom for my requirements. More of a "hot rod" system.

Don't fear a non-intercooled version by the way. Most that are not educated on the matter encourage people to steer clear but in reality the heat produced from the system will nearly self regulate the output. As the temperature rises the system loses efficiency and will in turn lose the boost level. I had experimented with a similar system on a horizontal 6 911 and found that it was only detrimental to lap times, not reliability.

I chose intercooled on this one knowing I could be lapping for hours at a time. The coolant never gets hot. You could just pour it into your hands even after lots of hot laps.

I got the transmission back in today - perhaps I will put the 'ol GKN Racing axles back on tomorrow. I got all new Stage 8 locking hardware for 'em as EVERY bolt was found only hand tight upon removal! No

Thanks!!
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Post  Michael B. on Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:47 pm

kevin924kevin wrote:Thats an awesome addition to the motor, it looks to sit under the hood with no issue. Where did you purchase that unit from? Thanks. That vid rocks

Hey thanks. It is a great addition & I wanted this car to be off the chain so... Its just a small part of the whole picture though:

WHOLE PICTURE

2002 GM / Pontiac 5.7 liter all aluminum LS1
Custom big tube header kit
SLP Performance Mass Air Flow sensor
Aluminum flywheel -12 lbs
Performance ECU tune
Full custom aluminum NASCAR style radiator
Remote oil filter with Mobil-1 lubricants
Bosch “044" Turbo high PSI fuel pump
MSD 8.5mm sparkplug cables
Custom 3 inch exhaust system with Magnaflow muffler
Eaton Magnacharger roots style supercharger with intercooler

Transmission:

Porsche 944 Turbo gear box
Porsche factory transmission cooler
Quaife torque biasing limited slip differential
GKN Motorsports performance axle & CV joint set
.73 fifth gear ratio for 200 MPH top speed @ 6500 RPM
SPEC Kevlar Stage 2+ Clutch disc & Alum pressure plate -6 lbs

Interior:

Adjustable race seats left & right
Upgraded dash cluster with OBD2 diagnostic indicator
DIN mount three gauge panel with Boost Lbs/Fuel PSI/Oil temp
6 point bolt-in roll cage

Suspension:

Weltmeister adjustable camber plates
Bilstein Escort Race Series coil-over front struts valved 600/190.
Hypercoil 2.50 / 450 lb. front springs
Bilstein Escort Race Series coil-over rear shocks valved 565/218.
Hypercoil 2.25 / 500 lb. rear springs
Porsche 944 Turbo M030 - 30 mm front anti-sway bar
Porsche 944 Turbo M030 - 19 mm adjustable rear anti-sway bar
Aurora custom adjustable rear anti-sway bar end links
Racers Edge custom lower control arms
Porsche 944 Turbo M030 front spindles / uprights
Porsche 944 Turbo M030 front wheel hubs

Brakes:

Porsche 944 Turbo M030 fully vented front rotors
Porsche 993 Big Black front four piston caliper set
Porsche 944 Turbo rear four piston caliper set
Porsche 944 Turbo large vented rear rotors
Stainless braided brake lines

Body:

Custom fiberglass hood
Rolled rear fender lips
Brake ducts through fog light holes

Wheels & tires:

Forgeline WC3 polished alloy 8.5 & 10.5 x 18 three piece wheels
225/35/18 & 295/30/18 tires

As you can see here:



...the blower did not fit the stock hood, which was okay cause that allowed me to justify the lighter fiberglass hood! Cool

I am at the crossroads of a few things next. I have a manual steering rack waiting, and the correct Porsche Motorsports tie-rods needed to convert & my thoughts were to swap over. Then I was going to use the power steering pump to just power my Mustang GT Hydroboost kit - standalone... But now I have researched the electric brake booster kit & I am leaning that way to clean up/delete all the extra stuff I really dont like (hoses etc). Or I can just leave the power steering as-is and run the electric boost brakes.

Once I have the car back on the ground I will figure out my next move. One thing at a time for now.


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Post  kevin924kevin on Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:49 pm

Thank you very much for the info you provided. That is one nicely put together car. Please show more vids when u have them. Good luck.
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Post  gamman on Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:00 pm

have you read up or talked to tonyg and his car? he said a few years ago they tested cars back to back and the manual cars were driven slower because of fatigue. first few laps, they may have been a bit faster, but overall the power steer and brake cars were faster. paraphrasing here
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Post  robstah on Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:36 am

May I make a suggestion? I bet you could find more grip with higher rear spring rates and more cornering grip with a smaller or no rear swaybar. I'd aim for somewhere between 600-750 rear spring rate (adjusting to how you like the feel of the car).

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Post  Lemming on Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:08 am

gamman wrote:have you read up or talked to tonyg and his car? he said a few years ago they tested cars back to back and the manual cars were driven slower because of fatigue. first few laps, they may have been a bit faster, but overall the power steer and brake cars were faster. paraphrasing here

I prefer the manual, even with sticky 275's on the front end and doing three hour endurance races solo. Not many people have tested a power rack versus a true manual rack, back to back. Pulling the belt off the power rack is not the same as a manual, not even close.
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Post  Michael B. on Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:20 am

gamman wrote:have you read up or talked to tonyg and his car? he said a few years ago they tested cars back to back and the manual cars were driven slower because of fatigue. first few laps, they may have been a bit faster, but overall the power steer and brake cars were faster. paraphrasing here

Oh yes, but fatigue is not a problem. All of my racecars are manual steering. Even the ones from the past. I cant think of a power steering racecar that I have had. Its just not a problem.

robstah wrote:May I make a suggestion? I bet you could find more grip with higher rear spring rates and more cornering grip with a smaller or no rear swaybar. I'd aim for somewhere between 600-750 rear spring rate (adjusting to how you like the feel of the car).

Suggestions are great & appreciated! However the rear spring rate is not totaled on that data blurb. You see this car also has rear torsion bars in addition to the coil over. Giving a perfect rear spring rate when totaled for GT3 Cupcar like track results. As for the sway bar... The 944S originally came without a bar. But after years of experimentation and honing this chassis (years) it gave overwhelming results for me to add the adjustable 19mm bar. I am kind of an anomaly as I prefer (& succeed) with more rear bar. Example: My GT3 track car was set full stiff rear bar when most (read: slower) guys in comparison were running soft settings. The softer setting actually may give you some comfort in the corners (or confidence) resulting in a better lap time for some, but like the fatigue thing... For me its just not required.
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Post  Lemming on Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:47 am

Rich L. wrote:That's a sick machine! I love the track vid passing the 997 turbo and v8 M3. Nicely done! Good luck at the Spectre.

Rich

OK, am I blind? Where's the link?
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Post  xschop on Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:06 am

Michael, do you have pics/info on the springs-coilovers for the rears. What size rear coilover spring did you go with since you left the torsion bars put, which is what I want to do. I have to do a cooler relo kit before I can install my rear coilovers and have not bought the springs yet. Thanks and great car/build you have there. Definitely representing us Hybriders properly. Cool
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Post  sbwrench on Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:23 am

Hey Michael B!

How's things?Car still looks great. I've been using the electric brakes for about 4 years now. They still work great but I don't see much track time. I'm using the same caliper rotor combo as you. The only change I've made is to go with the remote resevoir instead of the one built into the m/c. The built in one needed to be angle milled for hood clearance and ever since I had sealing problems with the lid. I went to their remote style with good results. It was a challange to get it much above the m/c once again because of limited hood clearance. The dinking around to get everything where I want it pays off because it makes a huge difference in braking. Well worth the time and money to me. I use the set up from American Braking Systems (ABS) in Orange, Ca.

When you going to get out to Elkhart for the bikes? We're there first weekend in June. The racing has been pretty incredible the past couple years. If you're interested drop me a line.

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Post  Michael B. on Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:15 pm

Lemming wrote:
Rich L. wrote:That's a sick machine! I love the track vid passing the 997 turbo and v8 M3. Nicely done! Good luck at the Spectre.

Rich

OK, am I blind? Where's the link?

Very Happy
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Post  gamman on Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:21 pm

Hey sb wrench. Can you or have you started a topic on your brakes? I would really appreciate it. I had a manual higher pin setup and hated the brakes, but i am a wuss. I plan or will be tracking car a lot so good info is dearly appreciated. Track setups take years to shake down.
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Post  Michael B. on Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:23 pm

xschop wrote:Michael, do you have pics/info on the springs-coilovers for the rears. What size rear coilover spring did you go with since you left the torsion bars put, which is what I want to do. I have to do a cooler relo kit before I can install my rear coilovers and have not bought the springs yet. Thanks and great car/build you have there. Definitely representing us Hybriders properly. Cool

Sure! Take a look at this photo & tell me if that answers any Q's for 'ya.

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