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Post  944v8inDFW on Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:06 pm

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In a pm to LT1 I mentioned a possible idea for headers. There are several people that make headers to swap a LSx engine into a Chevy s10 Truck and this is the driver side header. Much like the Hooker it is an easy mod to make it work and the tube length is a bit longer. After many header projects with Sanderson over the years I know they are happy to take a sample and make it production. Last time i talked to them the indication for coated headers would be in the $500 range. Sanderson makes the s10 LSx headers as pictured. Basically the thought would be make the left side out of one of theirs, and send them the sample and have them make it and a mirror image for the right. They are happy to sell you one side uncoated. My suggestion to Mike is to also move the flange down on a curve that fits the chassis a tad better.

Just throwing it out there
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Re: Thought On Headers

Post  944-LT1 on Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:58 pm

That does look good. The 3 and 5 primaries should be out on the collector and the 1 and 7 should be inside.

I wonder if sanderson would sell that header not welded or just the pieces and then we can move things around and send it back??? That would be awesome. I would be willing to do that.

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Re: Thought On Headers

Post  Tetzuoe on Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:28 am

or could we just send them some dimensions to follow.. and pictures?
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Post  944v8inDFW on Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:52 am

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I am quite sure they would be happy to send you one raw tacked up if nothing else. They have always been very good to me in that way. They also have a set of center dump block huggers much like the Hooker but not the longer tube.

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Most header makers want a sample. They can work off measurements but from a fab standpoint it is much easier to create a jig off a sample that has been fitted.
The jig process goes something like: make a support for the head and collector flange. Add cradles and fingers for space restrictions. Namely around the steering shaft on the 44 or 68 chassis. Add a dowel for O2 bunge placement. The major detail is always the bending of the tubes. Truthfully any good fabricator that does headers can bend up the tubes for minimum seams.

Much easier to jig up with a finished part. You could even say on the collector flange extend it down in the same plane 5 inches. I have always liked to aim the collector toward where the exhaust was heading with a bend, in this case to the center of the car. That allows you a longer primary tube and affords ground clearance.

Gotta add that all Sanderson headers come with their logo welded on!

Again not to discount from the Hooker shorts one bit, just another idea.
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Re: Thought On Headers

Post  Johnny Johnny on Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:25 pm

Without seeing it from the top and front, I can't be entirely sure, but it does look like you could leave primaries #3, 5, and 7 intact, and alter #1 in a similar fashion as on the Hooker shorties to clear the steering shaft. I'd love to have a copy of this one, cut off #1 and see if it fits like that.

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Another Header Option: Group Buy

Post  968gene on Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:30 pm

I contacted [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] because I saw a posting on another site regarding a group buy on custom headers for a V8 swap. Here's the reply. Please let me know if anyone is interested. Thanks.

We are not opposed to projects like this and would be happy to work with you
on a design; however, there would be a minimum order quantity of 25 units.
If you think this is something you can rally up on the forum then we can
discuss scheduling a vehicle for a fit up. Others have done group buys to
get the minimum, so that might be an option for you. Ballpark on a set like
this is going to be around $600 - $800 for ceramic coated mild steel.

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(951) 371-1744 ext.253/ 257
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Post  porschyn on Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:11 pm

968gene wrote:I contacted [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] because I saw a posting on another site regarding a group buy on custom headers for a V8 swap. Here's the reply. Please let me know if anyone is interested. Thanks.

We are not opposed to projects like this and would be happy to work with you
on a design; however, there would be a minimum order quantity of 25 units.
If you think this is something you can rally up on the forum then we can
discuss scheduling a vehicle for a fit up. Others have done group buys to
get the minimum, so that might be an option for you. Ballpark on a set like
this is going to be around $600 - $800 for ceramic coated mild steel.

Thanks,
Jamie Joyce
Automotive R&D Manager
(951) 371-1744 ext.253/ 257


I would be interested in joining in for the group purchase.

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Re: Thought On Headers

Post  Johnny Johnny on Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:35 am

BTW - I talked with a Hooker rep yesterday, and they gave exactly the same response for a custom run of the shorties - a minimum of 25 units.

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Re: Thought On Headers

Post  Tetzuoe on Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:13 am

Id be in as well, you think we can muster 25 folks?
I know I could name a few of us folks whod be interested.
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Custom Headers

Post  968gene on Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:46 am

I'm interested in a set of matched headers. I don't believe that you can get the same power out of a set of shorties. If we are going to all the trouble of a custom set, then we should also get all the power too.
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Re: Thought On Headers

Post  Tetzuoe on Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:15 am

where are these guys located?
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Re: Thought On Headers

Post  944v8inDFW on Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:54 am

I truly believe if there is going to be a custom run or group buy the best vendor for that is Sanderson as they truly build each header in house, somewhat made to order. Again if a sample can be provided that was made from their product I am sure that they would bend over backwards to accommodate, much like Quicktime. If something like this is going to be pursued I think a point man or a very small group should be the ones to coordinate sample and just general communication. Sample from their own product would do wonders in showing that is not some BS.

By the way they have a strong distaste for RH as well, due to the fact that RH bought their product to resale, ground off their name plate making the metal thin in the grind area and most people experienced a crack there. Of course Scottie blamed everyone including the people that did the coating after their grind, on failure except themselves.
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Post  944v8inDFW on Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:56 am

Sanderson Headers
517 Railroad Ave.
South San Francisco, CA 94080

Doug Thorley Headers
1180 Railroad Street
Corona, CA 92882
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Re: Thought On Headers

Post  Tetzuoe on Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:15 pm

whoops, CA is out of range for me lol.
I never knew about the name plate, thats pretty unfortunate.
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Post  gt1scca on Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:30 pm

944v8inDFW wrote:...If something like this is going to be pursued I think a point man or a very small group should be the ones to coordinate sample and just general communication. Sample from their own product would do wonders in showing that is not some BS.

By the way they have a strong distaste for RH as well, due to the fact that RH bought their product to resale, ground off their name plate making the metal thin in the grind area and most people experienced a crack there. Of course Scottie blamed everyone including the people that did the coating after their grind, on failure except themselves.
I agree. Most companies are more receptive to 1 contact...

As far as brand marking, etc. goes, the Hooker 2312s kept their markings after being modded, and I personally don't mind promoting a good product that works.

The bad side [which is where RH shines, apparently] is modding a product that started out with a warranty, then not standing behind the very part you modded. And to blame failures on someone else?

Makes me want to steamroller a set to ship back...


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Post  944v8inDFW on Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:39 pm

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Makes me want to steamroller a set to ship back...[/i]

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i MAY have know someone that did that, or at least took pictures Smile
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Send 'em, dude

Post  gt1scca on Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:58 pm

Can't wait to see that...

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Post  944v8inDFW on Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:24 pm

Sanderson s10 LS1 headers. WITH the tags intact!

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Post  Tetzuoe on Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:41 pm

test fit or it didnt happen pirat
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Post  944v8inDFW on Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:15 pm

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Post  944v8inDFW on Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:31 am

sorry no description

just a example of a header jig not terribly difficult to build one once you have a working sample
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