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Headers Part 2

Post  968gene on Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:51 pm

Take a look at this video. Could there be enough interest on the board to have a master mock up built and then we each place our orders? SS headers may be a little pricey, but they would also perform better due to equal length, etc. Anyone game for this?
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Re: Headers Part 2

Post  gt1scca on Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:31 pm

The great thing about the 2312 was, you guessed it...cost. I suspect some seeking more HP and torque would be interested in a true full-length SS header.

The mock-up kit would make design a picnic! This would definitely be a plus for the LT guys looking to add long-tube headers...Hard to believe, but there still isn't a solution for that application.

[Very] short-tube headers are the LT's only option right now...

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Re: Headers Part 2

Post  ffmedic on Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:46 pm

Wonder how much they would charge for a set of headers?
I am guessing they are very expensive though Sad

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Re: Headers Part 2

Post  968gene on Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:37 am

They will be a bit pricey Sad
However, they only need to be mocked up once. They don't mention the kit cost - that can be divided by the interested parties. Chances are even the RH headers would be less expensive.
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Re: Headers Part 2

Post  Tetzuoe on Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:54 am

check out what these guys do:
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you can model your space, mach up a starting point using set peices (like those plastic header designing kits) the computer model then evens all the bends in such a way to reduce and ease welding, gives you a bill of materials, where to cut all the bends... What a Face
they probably cost quite a bit to hire Sad
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yet another idea

Post  968gene on Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:11 pm

Since I have not held one in my hand, I'll put this out to the forum...

Does it appear that IF there was an exact mirror image of the F-body passenger side exhaust manifold, it would clear the driver's side steering shaft etc.?

Here's why I ask, when I built the 914 V8 with a 215 that I mentioned earlier, I used a manifold from the passenger side of a US Rover 3500 and one from a UK Rover 3500. They were mirror images of each other and gave me a symmetrical look to the package.

So IF, a mirror image could be sourced (say a RH drive F-Body Camaro, AUS GTO etc.), the problem could be solved with OEM parts.

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Re: Headers Part 2

Post  DVC on Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:50 pm

It would really be nice to have a true long tube header option for the LSx swap.
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Yet Another Header Possibility?

Post  968gene on Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:14 pm

Found this website. Will the Hugger Headers work? They are identical left and right. Thanks.
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Re: Headers Part 2

Post  Johnny Johnny on Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:11 pm

968gene wrote:Found this website. Will the Hugger Headers work? They are identical left and right. Thanks.
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Nope - these are basically the same as the Hooker 2312, and the same problem on the drivers side with steering shaft interference.

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Re: Headers Part 2

Post  lastson03 on Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:35 pm

I did not know how to post an image so I added the URL. These look as if they will work from the photos I have seen. I haven't started on my 1983 944 yet but i am trying to collect the right parts the first time by following the leaders and asking questions.

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Re: Headers Part 2

Post  Admin on Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:35 pm

Those look good,but they look way to close to the block to get the steering shaft through.

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Re: Headers Part 2

Post  Johnny Johnny on Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:24 am

The driver's side needs to be made to look like an "L" on it's side - the first two primary pipes on those will interfere.

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Re: Headers Part 2

Post  ghostcloak on Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:37 am

For the SBC/LTx Guys...
Thoughts?

PaceSetter Performance 70-1335
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Also Hooke rHeaders 2466HKR
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Re: Headers Part 2

Post  Dawgz83948 on Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:14 am

ghostcloak wrote:For the SBC/LTx Guys...
Thoughts?

PaceSetter Performance 70-1335
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I use these, the collector must be cut off and wxhaust welded to the collector but they work great and are Carb legal.
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Re: Headers Part 2

Post  ghostcloak on Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:07 pm

What did you do about that bung that's sticking up? Just welded it closed?
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Re: Headers Part 2

Post  Dawgz83948 on Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:15 am

ghostcloak wrote:What did you do about that bung that's sticking up? Just welded it closed?

I have emissions to pass so I have the air tubes there, however they make plugs that will just screw in and plug the hole. The nice thing about the Vette headers is that there is no seperate egr tube, they combined the air and egr to the passangers side.
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Headers ?

Post  lastson03 on Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:52 pm

One last thought on the headers. These are SBF street rod headers. They look to me like the modified Hookers. Just weld on a LSx Flange and it looks like they would be close? They are available from Summit Racing and Speedway Motors.
If you weld on your own flange you can change how close they are to the block and you can change the angle to whatever works?

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Re: Headers Part 2

Post  gt1scca on Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:05 pm

Someone has a set of modified Street & Performance Headers.

What about those "used" headers that were posted?
Why not send them to S&P, have a fixture made, and make everyone's day?
S&P can return ship in just a couple weeks.

I spoke to the owner of S&P myself.

And the '55-'57 Chevy LS1 Conversion Headers (they're the closest to long-tubes so far) can become the 944 LS1 Conversion Headers, with V-Band clamps, and could be available in 1.625" or 1.75" primaries. HPC coated or unfinished.

I'm so confident I have added them to the Manual as an option...

gt1scca wrote:"The Street & Performance '55 - '57 Chevy LS1 Conversion headers may also be modified for the 944 V8 Conversion. Only the driver's side header needs modification. The passenger side fits with minimal trimming of the 944 crossmember for collector clearance. The S&P headers are available in 1.625" primary (LS1) and 1.75" primary (LS2, 3, 6 and 7) tube, 2.5" and 3.0" collector sizes respectively, and may be ordered raw or HPC coated. V-Band collectors and clamps are also available.

Driver's side primary tubes must be reconfigured for clearance of the 944 steering shaft. The shaft will
pass between primaries 1 and 3 after modification, and the end result mimics the classic Tri-Y design.
An alternative modification is in progress that allows the steering shaft to pass through primary tubes
3 and 5."


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Re: Headers Part 2

Post  joeytoad83 on Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:51 pm

now that looks nice. link to said headers?

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2312's

Post  xschop on Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:26 am

If they were available at the time, I personally would get the S&P's for better flow and only if they were off the shelf (no modding) and most importantly, came from anywhere but Renegade Hybrids. (I saw CFGioja's RH header) .... Here's another reason why I chose to mod 2312 headers. The untouched Passenger side exits like it was designed for the swap, right in the sweet spot. The weather finally cleared up here and I installed my brand new 5.3L truck starter and some other things.....

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Re: Headers Part 2

Post  cfgioja on Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:45 am

whats wrong with this lay out? The steering rod goes though between the 3rd and 4th runner no problem.

The only big problem I can see is that the engine is sqeezed in pretty tight. The headers have a cm of clearance on the frame.

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Post  Admin on Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:30 am

Aren't those RH headers?






That would be the only problem = Cost! Shocked

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Post  endrnet on Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:54 am

I broke down and ordered the RH headers myself. I feel a little bit like a traitor to some of you guys but it's a solid option even if it's expensive, and I need to move forward on my conversion. I *tried* the header build myself from the other thread but the primaries needed to give up another 1/2" clearance to all tuck in behind the column and I do not possess the necessary skill with the mig to build them from scratch.

That said I'll keep watching this thread. I'm already toying with the idea of another one of these conversions with a more extreme/ivory-tower approach.

Anyway it's ~50F outside here and my garage can be worked in again with a small space heater.
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Post  cfgioja on Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:21 am

Those are the ones. They are pretty descent but are also expensive, I had the ceramic coat put on them. I am just showing a set that works
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Post  xschop on Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:00 pm

I was referring to the pic CF put up where the weld wasn't even complete. Not sure about these V8's but on a bike header, that kind of mistake will get you a burned valve in a heartbeat. If S&P can get completed headers out the door for 550-600, then they'd corner the market I'm sure.
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