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Autocrossing the 944/LSX
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Autocrossing the 944/LSX
Okay guys - give it up! Signed up for my first Autocross event (PCA Chesapeake) that's scheduled for the 16th - any pointers??
skywalker01- Posts : 477
Join date : 2009-07-22
Age : 60
Re: Autocrossing the 944/LSX
The usual pointers apply. Look WAY ahead of the corner you are in. Make sure you know the priority for the corners and get the high priority ones right even if you have to throw away the corner preceding.
As far as 944LS tips, you probably want to start ( beginning at drivers front and going clockwise) tire pressures at 36, 38, 38, and 35 unless you are hotlapping, then drop them a pound or two. Take the pressures cold and then hot and try to be able to come off the course with all 4 equal. The drivers front will heat the most. Make sure you walk the course multiple times and if you can, tape the course diagram to the dash. If your brake fluid is dark change it and check it after each run. Watch your water temp if you have the stock radiator. oh, and have fun!!
As far as 944LS tips, you probably want to start ( beginning at drivers front and going clockwise) tire pressures at 36, 38, 38, and 35 unless you are hotlapping, then drop them a pound or two. Take the pressures cold and then hot and try to be able to come off the course with all 4 equal. The drivers front will heat the most. Make sure you walk the course multiple times and if you can, tape the course diagram to the dash. If your brake fluid is dark change it and check it after each run. Watch your water temp if you have the stock radiator. oh, and have fun!!
expuppy- Posts : 56
Join date : 2009-09-13
Re: Autocrossing the 944/LSX
Use a wide entry and exit. Always either be on the gas or the brakes, there is no coasting on a racetrack. Be smooth with your inputs. If you aren't losing some traction, you could have gone faster through the turn. Seems kind of common sense, but go fast in the fast parts and slow in the slow parts (Kenny Roberts Sr). Road racing is a drag races interrupted by corners (I forget who said that). That being said I have never autocrossed or been on a track, in a car.
Arthropraxis- Posts : 1103
Join date : 2009-09-02
Re: Autocrossing the 944/LSX
umm go fast and turn right and left, and good luck to ya, i wanna see a dash cam after you are done
modenas- Posts : 285
Join date : 2009-06-08
Age : 35
Location : lubbock tx
Re: Autocrossing the 944/LSX
No dash cam for this event (had to get helmet), but will have video of the event. Thanks for the tips.
skywalker01- Posts : 477
Join date : 2009-07-22
Age : 60
Re: Autocrossing the 944/LSX
Arrive early or on-time to walk the track beforehand, as much/as many times as you can. This is typically scheduled into the days events by the organizers. Amazing how many people I've seen screw up their run by going off course.
cjbcpa- Posts : 60
Join date : 2010-06-20
Location : Quakertown, PA
Re: Autocrossing the 944/LSX
This year we will not be holding a school, however experienced drivers will be available to ride along with Novices or first time Autocrossers to show them the ropes. [...] Come early and chat with other drivers who are as passionate about their cars as you are. [/size]
This quote is from their website. If it were me, I'd do just what it says - come early, chat, find the experienced drivers, and try to line up as many of them as you can to ride along with you. If possible, try to ride along with some of them as well as they drive, after you've done a session or two. It will be eye-opening I'm sure.
Have a blast![/size]
acorad- Posts : 697
Join date : 2010-12-21
Location : Agoura Hills, CA
Re: Autocrossing the 944/LSX
Great suggestion! I know I'll be doing that for sure!! Thanks!cjbcpa wrote:Arrive early or on-time to walk the track beforehand, as much/as many times as you can. This is typically scheduled into the days events by the organizers. Amazing how many people I've seen screw up their run by going off course.
skywalker01- Posts : 477
Join date : 2009-07-22
Age : 60
Re: Autocrossing the 944/LSX
Bring a bike or skateboard to run the course multiple times.
Go fast and when you're about to hit something, turn!
Anyone know what movie that's from? Yes, I've just dated myself....
I used to do a lot of auto-xing, now I just run on the road courses...
Go fast and when you're about to hit something, turn!
Anyone know what movie that's from? Yes, I've just dated myself....
I used to do a lot of auto-xing, now I just run on the road courses...
docwyte- Posts : 1393
Join date : 2010-07-18
Re: Autocrossing the 944/LSX
Need to learn to crawl before I run. This will give me an opportuniity to see how the car behaves as I've never driven a 'normal' 944 at its limits, much less a beefed-up one. Just picked up a helmet and was surprised how light they were, but I guess you wouldn't want to have a lot of weight being slung around with you neck attached.
May go to the venue and see if they have things marked out already (but would I be that lucky?). Thanks for the suggestion!
May go to the venue and see if they have things marked out already (but would I be that lucky?). Thanks for the suggestion!
skywalker01- Posts : 477
Join date : 2009-07-22
Age : 60
Re: Autocrossing the 944/LSX
How'd you run??
I've been autocrossing my 948 for a year now, it's a handfull.
Looks to me like you have a sh*t ton of body roll, what's your suspension like??
LSD or not??
I'm fighting an understeer problem, mostly right foot!!!
I've been autocrossing my 948 for a year now, it's a handfull.
Looks to me like you have a sh*t ton of body roll, what's your suspension like??
LSD or not??
I'm fighting an understeer problem, mostly right foot!!!
Re: Autocrossing the 944/LSX
I am running with much lower pressures now, and seem to be getting a lot more grip. Being a little more smooth with the thorottle has been providing some more consistant times. Lack of power steering makes things a little rough at times when I have to deal with the tight slaloms they put at the end of the course, but I'm now getting down to 3 seconds off first place (within the top 10). I am the only modified Porsche at the PCA events, so I'm really competing against the RS's, BMWs and S2000s that frequent our events. At the SCCA events (DC Region), I'm the only E modified but the competition (and performance) is at a much higher level I have a lot of work to do to get into the top tiers there.
Suspension is adjustable koni (250#) coilovers on the front and koni adjustables on the rear (I have an '83 944) so no coilovers for the rear. Have the thicker M030 rollbars but I am seriously contemplating a torsion bar upgrade. No LSD - that may come as an upgrade later. Mike (87-944S)
wants me to get the beefier transmission. Do you have any video?
Suspension is adjustable koni (250#) coilovers on the front and koni adjustables on the rear (I have an '83 944) so no coilovers for the rear. Have the thicker M030 rollbars but I am seriously contemplating a torsion bar upgrade. No LSD - that may come as an upgrade later. Mike (87-944S)
wants me to get the beefier transmission. Do you have any video?
skywalker01- Posts : 477
Join date : 2009-07-22
Age : 60
Re: Autocrossing the 944/LSX
I had not seen the video of your run until after I posted. The car looked much flater in the video.
I'm using the ground control coilovers w/ adj. perches. 500# frt. 650#rear
How much tire can you fit under that widebody? What are you running?
I'm using my street tires for the rain- sumitomo hrzII 215/50/17 & 245/45/17
And dry track- Hoosier R3so5 - 225/45/17 & 275/40/17
The 275 just fits under my 88n/a.
I typically start at 30# on all four
Sounds like you are doing a great job driving! One tip I use for the slalom- try to visualize clipping the cone with the back of your car as you pass. It straightened my line out nicely.
Although I agree, the manual steering is a challenge. I think some of the coarses a designed to spite me( No more U turns!)
No video yet, going to get a in car camera sometime in the future.
I'm using the ground control coilovers w/ adj. perches. 500# frt. 650#rear
How much tire can you fit under that widebody? What are you running?
I'm using my street tires for the rain- sumitomo hrzII 215/50/17 & 245/45/17
And dry track- Hoosier R3so5 - 225/45/17 & 275/40/17
The 275 just fits under my 88n/a.
I typically start at 30# on all four
Sounds like you are doing a great job driving! One tip I use for the slalom- try to visualize clipping the cone with the back of your car as you pass. It straightened my line out nicely.
Although I agree, the manual steering is a challenge. I think some of the coarses a designed to spite me( No more U turns!)
No video yet, going to get a in car camera sometime in the future.
Re: Autocrossing the 944/LSX
I've got 18x10 in the front, running 285s - 18x12 in the rear, with 305s with some slight rubbing. My street tires are my competition tires, Nitto R555 II Drag Radials. I'm really hoping that Nitto will make NT01s in a 305 width, but think Hoosiers (gulp) may be in my near future. For some reason running counter to some of the solo wisdom with pressure, I seem to be doing better. I am running 26# and
am getting much better grip (allowing me to go faster). I have also gotten my dual MC brake setup working the way it should (thanks to 87-944S), allowing me to stop faster (and giving me a general sense of confidence).
On tight turns, I will still steer with the throttle - it makes the 'normal' 944 drivers jealous.
Well when you get some videos, please post them! Serves as motivation to those currently working!
am getting much better grip (allowing me to go faster). I have also gotten my dual MC brake setup working the way it should (thanks to 87-944S), allowing me to stop faster (and giving me a general sense of confidence).
On tight turns, I will still steer with the throttle - it makes the 'normal' 944 drivers jealous.
Well when you get some videos, please post them! Serves as motivation to those currently working!
skywalker01- Posts : 477
Join date : 2009-07-22
Age : 60
tires
Skywalker01 did u have to modify any thing up front to allow 10" tires.
kevin924kevin- Posts : 927
Join date : 2011-02-03
Age : 60
Location : Canada
Re: Autocrossing the 944/LSX
Other than the widebody kit, no. I will warn you that in super hard turns (which are few and far between), my tires do rub the wells.
skywalker01- Posts : 477
Join date : 2009-07-22
Age : 60
Re: Autocrossing the 944/LSX
Sorry to bump an old thread,
But if either of you guys are still around I'm curious as to what class you ended up running in .
But if either of you guys are still around I'm curious as to what class you ended up running in .
FrostedFlakeJake- Posts : 263
Join date : 2015-08-18
Re: Autocrossing the 944/LSX
Hey there! No worries on the bump! I started out with SCCA in E Modified, but since the field was so small (non-existent), I ended up in XP. XP has all of the cats and dogs, plus the Factory Five drivers are pretty cool (at least over here in the WDCA Region). I also autocross in Porsche events in the Modified class. Hope this answers your question. If you have any more, please feel free to PM!
skywalker01- Posts : 477
Join date : 2009-07-22
Age : 60
Re: Autocrossing the 944/LSX
Glad to know i can actually read the solo rulebook! EM is what i concluded after reading it. Thanks for the info, ill have to check out the xp class now
FrostedFlakeJake- Posts : 263
Join date : 2015-08-18
Re: Autocrossing the 944/LSX
FrostedFlakeJake wrote:Glad to know i can actually read the solo rulebook! EM is what i concluded after reading it. Thanks for the info, ill have to check out the xp class now
Yeah! That's a pretty intense document!! You should take a look at the Pro Solo rulebook!! I have to admit, XP is really competitive and I think we're a little underclassed in taking on the Factory Five Cobras - if you're wanting hardware, go for the E Modified. If you're into having a good time and getting experience, XP is the better spot
skywalker01- Posts : 477
Join date : 2009-07-22
Age : 60
Re: Autocrossing the 944/LSX
I have always run XP.
Although EM is also an option. If memory serves, EM limits the amount of aero as compared to XP.
Both classes are very competitive in my area. Dominated by national champs. My current build will hopefully get me closer to being on point.
Skywalker, nice to hear from you... How is your sorting going?
Although EM is also an option. If memory serves, EM limits the amount of aero as compared to XP.
Both classes are very competitive in my area. Dominated by national champs. My current build will hopefully get me closer to being on point.
Skywalker, nice to hear from you... How is your sorting going?
Re: Autocrossing the 944/LSX
scryfst wrote:I have always run XP.
Although EM is also an option. If memory serves, EM limits the amount of aero as compared to XP.
Both classes are very competitive in my area. Dominated by national champs. My current build will hopefully get me closer to being on point.
Skywalker, nice to hear from you... How is your sorting going?
Hey there! Everything is going well!! I just finished putting a new cam and springs in. Also performed a badly needed trunion bearing upgrade on the engine. I'll probably get the car dyno'd (finally) and start work on getting the car set up for track days - while autocross is fun, I am really looking forward to seeing how it works on the track.
skywalker01- Posts : 477
Join date : 2009-07-22
Age : 60
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