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For the benefit of 944Hybrids users there are two search functions available for you to use.
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Post  robstah Mon May 23, 2011 7:48 pm

Well, I finally got this pile into something. I guess I can finally call it an engine. Yey! Oy...

Anyway, it looks like I may have clearance issues with the front of the intake. I am currently running 1/2 inch crossmember spacers. Do I need to go thicker? I know the back end gets lifted up a bit with the torque tube and transaxle, but using a jack to lift the back a bit, it still looks like I will have clearance issues with the hood.

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Post  robstah Mon May 23, 2011 8:12 pm

Here are a couple more shots:

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Post  xschop Mon May 23, 2011 8:28 pm

What oil pan and how much X-member clearance when it's installed?
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Post  robstah Mon May 23, 2011 9:15 pm

xschop wrote:What oil pan and how much X-member clearance when it's installed?

The modified Moroso from you and there is maybe 3/4 inch of clearance.

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Post  xschop Mon May 23, 2011 9:24 pm

And you're gonna run the Power rack correct? If so that leaves 1/4" Moroso oilpan clearance.
Also how far is the rear driver's side head from the firewall?
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Post  robstah Mon May 23, 2011 9:33 pm

xschop wrote:And you're gonna run the Power rack correct? If so that leaves 1/4" Moroso oilpan clearance.
Also how far is the rear driver's side head from the firewall?

Nah, was going to run a manual rack.

It looks like about 3/4" clearance back there as well. Enough not to be able to get that bolt out. Razz

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Post  xschop Mon May 23, 2011 9:42 pm

You are in luck because you can slot those wide tabs on the polyurethane mounts upwards by 1/2" or more. The next trick is getting the rear of the driver's head to rest 1/4" away from the firewall. This will fix your problem as it did mine. You can slot the trans X-member to body holes towards the front and grind down the large washers on those like a half-moon so the whole drivetrain will move backwards. Cool
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Post  robstah Mon May 23, 2011 9:45 pm

Now, I am also running plates with the poly mounts (poly mount, plate, setback plate). Would taking those out fix the height issue? The slotting bit won't be an issue, I just wish I knew about it beforehand. Razz

Do I need to slot the engine crossmember holes as well?

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Post  xschop Tue May 24, 2011 7:43 am

You may have gotten the poly mounts with the longer tabs. There is a thread somewhere that shows the difference in tab height.

Do I need to slot the engine crossmember holes as well?

Get out a 1/2" bit and set the factory holes back by 1/2" Very Happy
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Post  robstah Wed May 25, 2011 12:14 am

So I was able to slot the crossmember back 1/2" and now there is a little above 1/4" of clearance between the driver's side head and firewall. I was also able to drop the engine down via poly mount slotting and removing the plates I mentioned before and there is 1/4" less clearance between the oil pan and crossmember. I still see the intake/tb peak over the curve. I am going to try and test fit the hood, but it doesn't look good. So people here aren't having issues with the 1/2" spacers?

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Post  robstah Wed May 25, 2011 12:37 am

Alright. I take the previous post back. The hood did fit! cheers

There's maybe a half of a millimeter worth of clearance between the TB and hood, but it does clear. Finally time for a drink and then to the wiring. drunken

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Post  xschop Wed May 25, 2011 8:04 am

Don't forget that you should also trim the throttle body protrusion at an angle and get another 1/4" hood clearance Very Happy
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Post  robstah Wed May 25, 2011 12:00 pm

xschop wrote:Don't forget that you should also trim the throttle body protrusion at an angle and get another 1/4" hood clearance Very Happy

Well, that and the hood ribs, right?

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Post  kevin924kevin Wed May 25, 2011 3:38 pm

xschop, you and admin and 944lt are a wealth of knowlege. we are fortunate to have guys like you.
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Post  robstah Wed May 25, 2011 4:09 pm

kevin924kevin wrote:xschop, you and admin and 944lt are a wealth of knowlege. we are fortunate to have guys like you.

I fully agree. Not only that, but everything is straight forward and --engineered-- correctly. I'd say we are far ahead of what Porsche originally intended and designed for these cars. There has not been one moment of "ghetto" and "redneck" for me, outside of RH. lol!

Cheers to all the ones who have made my life easier on here. cheers

I just wish I had a machine shop behind my house. Then I could be as cool as Rob (xschop). Razz

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Post  Arthropraxis Wed May 25, 2011 7:08 pm

How close was the hood to fitting prior to any of the cross member modifications? Could the hood lock catch at all?
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Post  robstah Thu May 26, 2011 12:44 am

Arthropraxis wrote:How close was the hood to fitting prior to any of the cross member modifications? Could the hood lock catch at all?

I only tried to test fit the hood after the slotting. Before, I doubt it would fit. The 1/4" down and 1/4-1/2" back made a visible difference and probably sealed the deal.

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Post  xschop Thu May 26, 2011 11:04 am

As a heads up to everyone, TPC's new upright and engine plate design can be slotted at the mount tabs as well to get up and down positioning to make up for the body/frame manufacturing differences in these cars. The tabs are nice and thick Very Happy

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Post  944-LT1 Thu May 26, 2011 11:33 am

xschop wrote:As a heads up to everyone, TPC's new upright and engine plate design can be slotted at the mount tabs as well to get up and down positioning to make up for the body/frame manufacturing differences in these cars. The tabs are nice and thick Very Happy

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Man I wish these were available when I started the LS conversion. May have to get them anyways. Laughing All-around better design.

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Post  docwyte Mon May 30, 2011 10:51 am

Yep, I upgraded to the new design recently.

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Post  UK952 Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:37 pm

robstah wrote:
xschop wrote:What oil pan and how much X-member clearance when it's installed?

The modified Moroso from you and there is maybe 3/4 inch of clearance.

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sorry to hijack the thread, but in this photo is that the starter motor to the lower left of the block how far forward does it come? does it reach the cross member? I have a nasty feeling it is going to foul my steering shaft


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Post  xschop Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:39 pm

You shouldn't worry it sits farther back. Post more pics of the RHD steering X-member...looks Groovy afro
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Post  UK952 Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:25 pm

The steering shaft goes through the hole on the RHD crossmember does it go over the top on the LHD?

Still a bit worried about steering shaft - starter motor - suppose I could always fit a starting handle to the front - Old school Wink
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