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Engine finally in, looks a bit high
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Engine finally in, looks a bit high
Well, I finally got this pile into something. I guess I can finally call it an engine. Yey! Oy...
Anyway, it looks like I may have clearance issues with the front of the intake. I am currently running 1/2 inch crossmember spacers. Do I need to go thicker? I know the back end gets lifted up a bit with the torque tube and transaxle, but using a jack to lift the back a bit, it still looks like I will have clearance issues with the hood.
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Anyway, it looks like I may have clearance issues with the front of the intake. I am currently running 1/2 inch crossmember spacers. Do I need to go thicker? I know the back end gets lifted up a bit with the torque tube and transaxle, but using a jack to lift the back a bit, it still looks like I will have clearance issues with the hood.
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robstah- Posts : 352
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robstah- Posts : 352
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Re: Engine finally in, looks a bit high
What oil pan and how much X-member clearance when it's installed?
xschop- Posts : 2711
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Re: Engine finally in, looks a bit high
xschop wrote:What oil pan and how much X-member clearance when it's installed?
The modified Moroso from you and there is maybe 3/4 inch of clearance.
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robstah- Posts : 352
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Re: Engine finally in, looks a bit high
And you're gonna run the Power rack correct? If so that leaves 1/4" Moroso oilpan clearance.
Also how far is the rear driver's side head from the firewall?
Also how far is the rear driver's side head from the firewall?
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Re: Engine finally in, looks a bit high
xschop wrote:And you're gonna run the Power rack correct? If so that leaves 1/4" Moroso oilpan clearance.
Also how far is the rear driver's side head from the firewall?
Nah, was going to run a manual rack.
It looks like about 3/4" clearance back there as well. Enough not to be able to get that bolt out.
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robstah- Posts : 352
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Re: Engine finally in, looks a bit high
You are in luck because you can slot those wide tabs on the polyurethane mounts upwards by 1/2" or more. The next trick is getting the rear of the driver's head to rest 1/4" away from the firewall. This will fix your problem as it did mine. You can slot the trans X-member to body holes towards the front and grind down the large washers on those like a half-moon so the whole drivetrain will move backwards.
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Re: Engine finally in, looks a bit high
Now, I am also running plates with the poly mounts (poly mount, plate, setback plate). Would taking those out fix the height issue? The slotting bit won't be an issue, I just wish I knew about it beforehand.
Do I need to slot the engine crossmember holes as well?
Do I need to slot the engine crossmember holes as well?
robstah- Posts : 352
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Re: Engine finally in, looks a bit high
You may have gotten the poly mounts with the longer tabs. There is a thread somewhere that shows the difference in tab height.
Get out a 1/2" bit and set the factory holes back by 1/2"
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Do I need to slot the engine crossmember holes as well?
Get out a 1/2" bit and set the factory holes back by 1/2"
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Re: Engine finally in, looks a bit high
So I was able to slot the crossmember back 1/2" and now there is a little above 1/4" of clearance between the driver's side head and firewall. I was also able to drop the engine down via poly mount slotting and removing the plates I mentioned before and there is 1/4" less clearance between the oil pan and crossmember. I still see the intake/tb peak over the curve. I am going to try and test fit the hood, but it doesn't look good. So people here aren't having issues with the 1/2" spacers?
robstah- Posts : 352
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Re: Engine finally in, looks a bit high
Alright. I take the previous post back. The hood did fit!
There's maybe a half of a millimeter worth of clearance between the TB and hood, but it does clear. Finally time for a drink and then to the wiring.
There's maybe a half of a millimeter worth of clearance between the TB and hood, but it does clear. Finally time for a drink and then to the wiring.
robstah- Posts : 352
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Re: Engine finally in, looks a bit high
Don't forget that you should also trim the throttle body protrusion at an angle and get another 1/4" hood clearance
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Re: Engine finally in, looks a bit high
xschop wrote:Don't forget that you should also trim the throttle body protrusion at an angle and get another 1/4" hood clearance
Well, that and the hood ribs, right?
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xschop, you and admin and 944lt are a wealth of knowlege. we are fortunate to have guys like you.
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Re: Engine finally in, looks a bit high
kevin924kevin wrote:xschop, you and admin and 944lt are a wealth of knowlege. we are fortunate to have guys like you.
I fully agree. Not only that, but everything is straight forward and --engineered-- correctly. I'd say we are far ahead of what Porsche originally intended and designed for these cars. There has not been one moment of "ghetto" and "redneck" for me, outside of RH.
Cheers to all the ones who have made my life easier on here.
I just wish I had a machine shop behind my house. Then I could be as cool as Rob (xschop).
robstah- Posts : 352
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Re: Engine finally in, looks a bit high
How close was the hood to fitting prior to any of the cross member modifications? Could the hood lock catch at all?
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Re: Engine finally in, looks a bit high
Arthropraxis wrote:How close was the hood to fitting prior to any of the cross member modifications? Could the hood lock catch at all?
I only tried to test fit the hood after the slotting. Before, I doubt it would fit. The 1/4" down and 1/4-1/2" back made a visible difference and probably sealed the deal.
robstah- Posts : 352
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Re: Engine finally in, looks a bit high
As a heads up to everyone, TPC's new upright and engine plate design can be slotted at the mount tabs as well to get up and down positioning to make up for the body/frame manufacturing differences in these cars. The tabs are nice and thick
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Re: Engine finally in, looks a bit high
xschop wrote:As a heads up to everyone, TPC's new upright and engine plate design can be slotted at the mount tabs as well to get up and down positioning to make up for the body/frame manufacturing differences in these cars. The tabs are nice and thick
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Man I wish these were available when I started the LS conversion. May have to get them anyways. All-around better design.
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Re: Engine finally in, looks a bit high
Yep, I upgraded to the new design recently.
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Re: Engine finally in, looks a bit high
robstah wrote:xschop wrote:What oil pan and how much X-member clearance when it's installed?
The modified Moroso from you and there is maybe 3/4 inch of clearance.
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sorry to hijack the thread, but in this photo is that the starter motor to the lower left of the block how far forward does it come? does it reach the cross member? I have a nasty feeling it is going to foul my steering shaft
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UK952- Posts : 25
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Re: Engine finally in, looks a bit high
You shouldn't worry it sits farther back. Post more pics of the RHD steering X-member...looks Groovy
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Re: Engine finally in, looks a bit high
The steering shaft goes through the hole on the RHD crossmember does it go over the top on the LHD?
Still a bit worried about steering shaft - starter motor - suppose I could always fit a starting handle to the front - Old school
Still a bit worried about steering shaft - starter motor - suppose I could always fit a starting handle to the front - Old school
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