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Modifying Hooker 2312 headers to fit LSx in 944 engine bay

Post  Johnny Johnny on Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:45 pm

Instructions on how to modify the Hooker #2312 driver's side header. This modification is pretty straightforward, other than the part where you need to custom bend or fabricate a new primary pipe.

What you'll need:

- Hooker #2312 drivers side header (passenger header fits as is)
- a length of 1 5/8" .048" mild steel exhaust tube (unless you are using the stainless steel variant of the header)
- grinder with various sizes/shapes of grinding tips
- sawzall or hacksaw
- welder (or someone to do the welding)
- various clamps, rulers, protractors, files, etc.

1. This is what you start out with. Primary #1 is at the front of the motor (the leftmost one when looking at the header from the outside), and #7 is at the rear (rightmost).

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2. The exhaust port flange needs to be separated from the primaries. The primaries are welded to the exhaust flange on the inside of the ports. Using your grinder, remove the weld metal inside the ports until the flange comes off.

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3. Cut off #5 and #7 primary (the rearmost 2) above the weld line at the collector. Keep these pieces, as they are both re-used.

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4. You're going to be shifting the remaining section one port backwards on the flange, so #1 primary becomes #3, #3 primary becomes #5, etc. Using the original #7 primary, grind the lower end so that it fits between port #7 and the collector port closest to the block.

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5. This is where it gets a little tricky. The #1 primary will be a combination of the original #5 primary, and some custom bent/welded pipe. It is made up of 5 pieces, depending on how many are pre-bent. Here’s what it will look like when put together, and the dimensions to build it.

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6. For the header to fit properly, you'll need to grind off a "tab" on the block, right below exhaust port #7. Grind it back to the first step, then undercut it a little.

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7. Grind off the paint where the pieces will be welded. Be sure that the flange is in the correct orientation - the mounting holes are assymetrical. Tack weld the large primary assembly to the exhaust flange, then tack #7 on. Tack the #1 primary pieces together, but don't tack it to the flange or collector yet.

8. Test fit everything, then weld #3, 5 and 7 primaries to the exhaust flange and collector. Test fit again, and if everything looks good, tack and weld the long #1 primary.

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Re: Modifying Hooker 2312 headers to fit LSx in 944 engine bay

Post  Admin on Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:37 pm

Very nice! Thank for your time and effort that you put into this. Boy, I bet we know someone who is PISSED Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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Re: Modifying Hooker 2312 headers to fit LSx in 944 engine bay

Post  ffmedic on Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:39 pm

Good write up, thanks.

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Re: Modifying Hooker 2312 headers to fit LSx in 944 engine bay

Post  924s driver on Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:18 am

Looks good. I will say this site has some good info.

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Re: Modifying Hooker 2312 headers to fit LSx in 944 engine bay

Post  DOMIT on Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:58 am

Hmmm... I guess this is as good of a first post as any... maybe I can actually contribute something. Smile

Has anyone tried these?

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The right (passenger) side looks like it may stick out more in the pic. The left (drivers) side layout, however, looks VERY close (although some tube positions are reversed) to the "modified" header.

I'm as enthusiastic as the next guy when it comes to making something that will work when there isn't a solution... but if these fit, that would be a great find. Especially since they are already less than the ones being modified here, before you even figure in time and cost to modify them.

Just a thought. Smile

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Post  xschop on Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:26 am

If that 1st long tube can be moved without too much hassle, then that would be a contender. It looks like the #3 has even more steering shaft clearance than the modded 2312 header. I'm considering unbolting mine and moving #3 about 1/2" closer up and nearer to the block to get more engine drop there...
Good find. It looks like the exit flange will fit without hitting firewall too.

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Re: Modifying Hooker 2312 headers to fit LSx in 944 engine bay

Post  DOMIT on Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:43 am

Hmmm... I can't tell from the pics... so let me ask: Are you sure it would even need to be moved? Given that it sits on the inside and fairly "high" I was thinking it might possibly clear "as is."

BTW I just happened across this board a couple days ago... because I "inherited" my daughter's 944. (I bought it for her a couple years ago... but it's been of questionable reliability, so I want to make a "toy" out of it.) '86, decent body/chassis/interior but crappy paint... and a slushbox.

I was looking for a place to learn how hard this would be to do. Hmmm... may go out on a limb here and say the automatic stays FOR NOW. lol

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Re: Modifying Hooker 2312 headers to fit LSx in 944 engine bay

Post  Tetzuoe on Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:08 pm

That would be a home run if they fit, convince me to bite the bullet on this one and maybe ill be the guinea pig Razz

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Re: Modifying Hooker 2312 headers to fit LSx in 944 engine bay

Post  Johnny Johnny on Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:50 pm

The driver's side header looks like it might fit. It's the passenger one that I'm concerned about. That third primary looks like it comes out quite a bit, and might hit the strut tower.

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Re: Modifying Hooker 2312 headers to fit LSx in 944 engine bay

Post  DOMIT on Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:57 pm

Johnny Johnny wrote:The driver's side header looks like it might fit. It's the passenger one that I'm concerned about. That third primary looks like it comes out quite a bit, and might hit the strut tower.


Yup, I thought it looked a little on the wide side too. Unfortunately the only way to find out is to get a set and test them. Sad

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Re: Modifying Hooker 2312 headers to fit LSx in 944 engine bay

Post  Tetzuoe on Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:25 pm

Think anything like that can be found at the junk yards? 50 bucks is a lot nicer than 150.

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Re: Modifying Hooker 2312 headers to fit LSx in 944 engine bay

Post  RobotMachines on Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:28 pm

Simply genius! Nice post.

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Re: Modifying Hooker 2312 headers to fit LSx in 944 engine bay

Post  modenas on Mon May 17, 2010 11:00 pm

anyone interested in buying theses? cheap

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Re: Modifying Hooker 2312 headers to fit LSx in 944 engine bay

Post  modenas on Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:47 pm

i have a set of these, but i need a test fit, anyone be willing to do so for me? my ls block is gone and my kit is out of the car

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Welding the collector

Post  fliermike45 on Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:16 pm

Johny J,
Any suggestions on how to weld the pipes back into the collector?
How do you weld the inside portion of the pipes in the cluster?
Thanks

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